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Synergy R/C Synergy N9 > THE SYNERGY REVOLUTION !!

IS Pilot
Senior Heliman
Location: Fremont, CA AMA#840804

Nitro Fun

Dude, please keep your thoughtless comments to yourself. You should not worry about the throw on the swash, but more on your spelling. I have read most of your comments lately and I must say you are uninformed and ignorant.

Mike

07-13-2006 Over year old.

Brett
Veteran
Location: Chicago Burbs

Yea but I dont think the point made is the pilot or the nice design. I think the big question is can a line be supported today by a company that has one product. What happens if it does not take off and even if it does look at how many other heli's are in the market that parts exist for that evolved over time. In most cases these companies made or sold other products. I dont think MA, Hirobo, Kyosho could start up in todays market with one flagship heli and make it. So the real issue is can it be supported or will it be like many of the heli's that came out and went bye bye. I still need parts for my Kalt Omega Pro ?

07-14-2006 Over year old.

nitro fun
Senior Heliman
Location: wilmington ca

is pilot

well, first of all what are you trying to say, it is quite ovious you have nothing to say? are you the tec wiz on the heilis? i have been into the hobbie for 15 years. are you a jk worshiper and only fly what he approves? i think that you are the ignorant one. plese keep your comments to yourself. i am not a desk geek and type into a computer all day long and memmorize where all the keys are. i will try harder to type better for you...

07-14-2006 Over year old.

nitro fun
Senior Heliman
Location: wilmington ca

is pilot

by the way what am i uninformed about?

07-14-2006 Over year old.

nitro fun
Senior Heliman
Location: wilmington ca

hansking12

the porsche has not really kept up with the technology. when chevy made the 1984 vett and it was winning on the track porsche bought two vettes and took one apart, then they got rid of the old vw bug type suspension and made a aluminum muti link like the chevy vett. but they still refuse to change engine location, because they want to keep tradition, and not offend the porshe lovers, i use to have a 1985 vett and i love that car in the corners, when you break the tier loose you just let off the gas a little and you stay in very good control, because the car is ballenced good, the new vetts are better, but the rear engine mount on the porshe, the car in not ballanced good adn the back or the care wants to swap, that is why they install wider tiers on the back and little ones on the front.

07-14-2006 Over year old.

hansking12
Senior Heliman
Location: irvine, ca

nitro fun

i think you missed my point regarding sterotypes. the point was never about quickness around a track, but rather the old stereotype that in order to have a sporty handling car, a stiff suspension is needed. pasm is 'porsche active suspension management' or in some other words magneride patented by, would you believe, an american company for a luxury car brand. so now, the pasm suspension stiffens when you need it (almost instantly) for corners/bumps/etc, yet retains a compliant, near luxury (for a porsche) ride. that was the stereotype/misconception that i was referring to.

the world was once to have been thought of as flat
the sun revolves around the earth
light doesn't have mass
aircraft couldn't surpass the speed of sound
aids couldn't be transmitted by kissing
heat only flows from hot to cold
the 4 minute mile could never be broken
and a model heli cannot be both stable yet highly manuverable

oh, and regarding the weight distribution on 911s--i know it was certainly exciting if you needed to lift during a high speed corner passing an erratic lapper(turn 10 at laguna seca in my ttp modified awd 523hp turbo s 993! good times!

07-14-2006 Over year old.

nitro fun
Senior Heliman
Location: wilmington ca

hansking12

trust me i know about suspension i rid dirt bikes in the desert and threr is a differance when you hit woops at 30mph and it throw you over the bars, and when you are set up i drive 60 over whoop on my bike. all the active suspension is solonoid that open to change the setting of the shock. to control the spring bounce. maybe they have a variable one to control from the dash insted of a screw to adjust. you can make any type of part you want to so i am not impressed by cars at the car lots. my friend has a rail with king shocks and duel srings, 24 inch of travil, with seperate adjustable rebound and compression, in the rear, drive 80 90 over anything in the desert and jump 7 feet hight its like a caddy you do not feel anything smooth.
the old thought about stiff suspension is still the same. you want to corner fast you have to tighten the suspenion, you can take any car and make it handel better then stock, in the dirt you spin the tiers and slide arround the corners sidways. active suspension is just changing the shock settings, and using the shock to stiffin the suspension insted to having a stiff sring. on dirt you have high speed compresion setting and low speed compresion setting, the same is for the rebound..

07-15-2006 Over year old.

nitro fun
Senior Heliman
Location: wilmington ca

by the way

what happend to the synergy talk? did i ruffle some fethers hehe

07-15-2006 Over year old.

hansking12
Senior Heliman
Location: irvine, ca

nitro fun

once again, you missed my point. the pasm i was referring to allows both comfortable ride AND tight handling, all at the same time.

and active suspension is not merely a solenoid to close off valves to increase damping rates. the pasm system uses magnetic particles in the fluid which changes viscosity while all orifices within the shock absorber stay the same. no valves changing with solenoids.

of course there is the case of fully active vs semi active suspension, which i won't bother anyone with here.

nitro fun--i don't think you would want to compare experiences with fast toys with me, either on/off road, two wheels or four, in the water, in the snow, or in the air. suffice it to say that i'm fairly well versed with a variety of experiences.

oh, and in case you didn't get it, my last post was about misconceptions targeted towards the synergy heli.

this will be my last post concerning this matter. my interest here on this forum is model helicopters.

hans

07-15-2006 Over year old.

Britflyer
Veteran
Location: Derby, England

The Synergy comes with suspension ?

That would be cool in a crash ! Boing Boing Boing! !

Paul

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07-15-2006 Over year old.

HOMEPAGE

Qrrambero
Veteran
Location: San Francisco / Bay Area

Does anyone remember the Kalt, the TSK and the Legend. Where are they? I do not own an X-cell any more, but this helicopter has been in the market for a long time, and you find parts everywhere.The same with the Raptor.
Do you remember the Yugo. Cheap car, did take too much gas. Where is the Yugo this days.
Does someone has one sitting in his or her drive way.

07-15-2006 Over year old.

nitro fun
Senior Heliman
Location: wilmington ca

hansking12

well i didnt miss the point, active suspension and flybar ratios are two different subjects. i have seen pics of the synergy, nothing new. x-cell has made that head for 18 years or so, it flew good then and it still flys good now. why do you think synergey has x-cell type head? because it works. why didnt they use hirobo type head? because its too smooth, synergy 3d fast right. the tail boom is lowerd so when you roll it will roll arround the tail boom, helis come and helis go. anything will fly its the person behind the sticks that can set up a heli properly and make a manuver look good in the air

07-16-2006 Over year old.

hansking12
Senior Heliman
Location: irvine, ca

nitro fun

well, once again, we've started where it all began.

it seems that you have your own ideas of why certain things are done, yet you seem to stay superficial and not realize that there is much more to certain ideas and combinations than readily meets the eye.

also, you seem to know all about how all types of helis fly by picking and choosing from past experience, yet aren't open to thinking that perhaps, just perhaps, a certain combination of things which may all individually appear to have been tried before will produce a result which can be predictable.

now, let's review what "synergy" means. . .did you find it? good.

one day, hopefully not too far in the future, you will understand.

whatever you choose to fly, just fly. as for me, i'm waiting for my n9.

peace,

hans

07-16-2006 Over year old.

TMoore
rrProfessor
Location: Cookeville, TN

PMFJI,

X-Cell type head? How about Schluter Champion style head? The fact that this style head is still in production is a tribute to Dieter Schluter. The fact that so many manufacturers have adopted it is a tribute to the simplicity and timelessness of the design.

TM

07-16-2006 Over year old.

nitro fun
Senior Heliman
Location: wilmington ca

schluter

i have never owned a schluter. i know that it is the same type head. i thought that it was one company that the people part ways and the other created x-cell? but i am not shure? i started with concepts, shuttle, back in the day if you rolled up with a bottle of 30% futaba corless 9202 and some fiberglass blades with a dule rate gyro, you were the man. then spend half you time trying to get all the slop out of them bushings, anything on the market today flys better then a non bearing plastic shuttle. next week i want to fly my friends gohbee 90 i like the bell hiller mix, it is like my old airsonic electric but with collective, that arisonic was fixed but has bell hiller mix into the main grip to fly smoother it was from japan. on the gohbee the direct is almost in a straight line into the main grip so no matter what the flybar is doing you can get direct to the head i think that gohbee will compete with the raptor market $550 for a all metal 90 gohbee raptor chassie with a better head, by the time you buy a 50 raptor and change it all to metal, you then have 700 into the chassie

07-17-2006 Over year old.

a3dpilotusa
Heliman
Location: Lower Georgia

prices look to be posted.

http://www.synergyrc.com/documents/parts%20list.pdf

07-20-2006 Over year old.

TYREE
Veteran
Location: Sonoma county

Gohbee.........

Gohbees are the redheaded step chidren that fly better than
their Step Parents....

07-24-2006 Over year old.

raptorheli2
Elite Veteran
Location: rip off britain and no changing it

i think you should have no fear of the longetivity of the synergy, it's here to stay.

cheers

www.waterfoothelis.com

07-25-2006 Over year old.

HOMEPAGE

craigoku
Senior Heliman
Location: Mountain View, Ca

It's not even worth dealing with these fools! LOL

As for "Nitro fun" I would stop there if I were you! This would be a game you could not win.

07-25-2006 Over year old.

nitro fun
Senior Heliman
Location: wilmington ca

gohbee

weel after a half gallon, i think the gohbee is junk, i havent seen a heli develop slop like that hehehe glad its not mine.....

08-01-2006 Over year old.

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