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e-Align T-REX 250-450-500-600 > I had it with Align

Rotary R/C
Senior Heliman
Location: Sudbury, ON Canada

This is like beating a dead horse. If you don't like it....don't buy it. Buying something once because you got caught by the hype and it turns out it's not as good as the hype made it out to be is one thing. To keep on buying after you feel this way is another.

Ever heard the saying "Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me."?

I think this is really what gets people agrevated by these posts. You got fooled, once, and only once...

I like my Trex 450XL. Therefore, I have purchased an SE and it will be here on Thursday. I know it's not the best heli out there, but you know what, I'm not expecting it to be. For the price I can't expect it to be. When the plastic head on my XL broke last week, it wasn't the end of the world. Was it crappy manufacturing, no. It's a tiny piece of plastic that receives wicked g-forces. I'm really surprised that they last as long as they do. This why I am going to an SE. The XL and even the SE is low cost alternative to getting into an a very expensive hobby. If you don't like it then spend the 3grand and get in to a decent heli (just don't crash it cause the parts aren't as cheap in price as Align's).

My 2cents
Marc

06-21-2006 01:51 AM

Rotary R/C
Senior Heliman
Location: Sudbury, ON Canada

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willy If you where happy with the 450 xl, you should have stuck with it, let us know how the se goes .i got a feeling you are about to have an experience.

The XL has been good to me, but now that I'm working on 3D in my learning curve (regardless of what Align's marketing team wants people to believe) the XL won't cut it (not in plastic form anyway). I'm not saying that it can't do 3D, I just don't think it would last very long. The SE is not the greatest heli but the metal gear will hold up much better. And as my usual routine the ARF parts will be disassembled and reassembled properly. I've said this before, "ready to fly" only means "this is what it should look like after you disassemble and rebuild properly".

Marc

06-21-2006 02:18 AM

Rotary R/C
Senior Heliman
Location: Sudbury, ON Canada

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willy good luck with that, let us know what you think

I will

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Now that I've said that I'll end up with all the parts marked "Ship to Willy" from the defective bin.

Marc

06-21-2006 02:39 AM

3D WASP
Veteran
Location: Home of the Reagan Library, CA

no luck needed rotary, just a bit of skill and time and you will love it. The SE Rocks, forget about all the haters that keep pouring money into a product that they think is sub-par....they are, well, lets just say a bit confused and or ignorant. Lol just shop at one of the shops that i go to they will give you nothing but good parts.

Timing is everything

06-21-2006 02:45 AM

3D WASP
Veteran
Location: Home of the Reagan Library, CA

Still waiting to place an order for a willy cp blade conversion tail set up for a T-rex, how does that thing auto as it spins in circles?

Timing is everything

06-21-2006 03:27 AM

pauchelle
Senior Heliman
Location: West Palm Beach, FL

By the way. Align being so new. and they decided to make a 50 size E heli which is cost effective.

Guess what.

They won 2nd place on the XFC contest.

Trex600 2nd place and 5th place.

06-21-2006 05:33 AM

clive45
Veteran
Location: NSW Australia

I think the point that was brought up again 5 or 6 posts back is that the winers want to alert the newbees to whats wrong. Well if they dont know now with a 120,000 posts on the TREX they never will, so why keep wining about the same thing.
Try and fix problems don't keep telling people the same thing over and over. If you want to rave about the lousy Align parts then rave to Align. I think you like to get the selfgratification of others and not having to wait for Align to reply or ignore you. Nobody minds being told things are not as they should be but how many times must we endure this consistant prattle. Go to the source and kick arse dont keep kicking the little people.

06-21-2006 05:48 AM

Yitzee
Heliman
Location: Michigan

Here is a sure fix - DONT FLY IT JUST POLISH IT WITH A DIAPER. LOL

06-21-2006 06:55 AM

Grant H
Key Veteran
Location: Maryland

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Guess what. They won 2nd place on the XFC contest. Trex600 2nd place and 5th place.

You dont think that the guys who won those spots got special versions of the Rex600?

I do.

06-21-2006 08:14 AM

HOMEPAGE

clive45
Veteran
Location: NSW Australia

I bet they built them in the factory, so if a part was not right just go get another one. Easyier to get it right at the start when you have thousands of parts to choose from/

06-21-2006 08:17 AM

pauchelle
Senior Heliman
Location: West Palm Beach, FL

Even though they have a special version. so what?

Trex600 $620 + Special metal parts let say add $100
thats with orginal Motor and BEC and ESC they use at the XFC.

MA ION x. $1800? lol?

Price difference.

Still Trex600 is looking good. yeah we need to upgrade it. but... I think its worth the try.

and they only used 6S2P for that competition. I dont see any other E 50 size heli doing that stunts. on 6S2P

If you dont want it. Leave it alone

06-21-2006 08:33 AM

ozace
Key Veteran
Location: melbourne, australia

Dont discount the fact that Alan Jr is probably the best 3d man in the world right now, I believe his talent and that of his brother and the other trex competitor make up for a lot.

we can never have too many, can we ?

06-21-2006 08:33 AM

3D WASP
Veteran
Location: Home of the Reagan Library, CA

Why not take orders Willy, if it's so much better im sure plenty of people would want it, you could be rich. How many pro's are using this setup? Im sure expert pilots would love more tunability and control, perhaps you could exclusivly sell to them. Or are you worried about your quality control?

Timing is everything

06-21-2006 09:55 AM

Heli_Freak_de
Heliman
Location: Germany

There was nothing special about the T-Rex600 Alan and Danny where using. Standard plastic tail and blue prototyp metal head, standard Align Motor/ESC. The only special was the lipo. It was a TP 6s1p 4500mah(20C) prototyp pack.

@Gazzer
The quality of the T-Rex600 is not Hirobo, but it's the same level as TT, Kyosho or others with the same price level. The Lepton maybe a good machine, but it's very expensive for this size and I don't want to know what the spare parts will cost.

06-21-2006 10:18 AM

Tintin
Veteran
Location: Akershus, Norway

Hmmm

http://www.runryder.com/helicopter/t258286p1/

Supposedly a leftie :-) And another one ignored...

06-21-2006 10:29 AM

Gazzer
Veteran
Location: Hope Valley, UK

Heli_Freak_de

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The quality of the T-Rex600 is not Hirobo, but it's the same level as TT, Kyosho or others with the same price level. The Lepton maybe a good machine, but it's very expensive for this size and I don't want to know what the spare parts will cost.

Honestly I think you've got to be joking on this

. I don't know of your experience with heli's but just have a look at any plastic parts that come from the likes of TT or Koyosho then have a close look at the Align parts. Look at the design of the blade grips... you just know that there going to break every crash. As for the Lepton, well on the face of it it does look expensive but look what you get for the money.... it's fully blinged out. Now look at how the Trex 600 is coming as standard. Work out how much you would have to spend to bring it up to the same 'bling factor' then compare the price

clive45

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I think the point that was brought up again 5 or 6 posts back is that the winers want to alert the newbees to whats wrong. Well if they dont know now with a 120,000 posts on the TREX they never will, so why keep wining about the same thing.

Did you read the title of this thread? The guys complaining about Align quality..... were all here debating that, so where better to post. If you want to start an "Align quality is wonderfull thread" then I promise us complainers will keep out .............. na just joking

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Even though they have a special version. so what? Trex600 $620 + Special metal parts let say add $100 thats with orginal Motor and BEC and ESC they use at the XFC.

pauchelle
US$100 for the metal parts ........ even for the Rexy 450 thats light. Even Align metal parts for a 50 class heli are going to be way more!

Heli_Freak_de

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There was nothing special about the T-Rex600 Alan and Danny where using. Standard plastic tail and blue prototyp metal head, standard Align Motor/ESC. The only special was the lipo. It was a TP 6s1p 4500mah(20C) prototyp pack.

No idea what they are flying exactly but from the various photographs I've seen they all looked fairly blinged out to me....... sort of SE versions. Certainly look a long way from what I'm seeing in the build thread currently running on this board

06-21-2006 12:27 PM

jcrack_corn
Senior Heliman
Location: Lafayette, LA

Dude, are you effin kiding me....lose the Align lovefest. That company produces JUNK. You just said "nothing special" then go on to mention the prototype metal head, and experimental lipo....geez...

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There was nothing special about the T-Rex600 Alan and Danny where using. Standard plastic tail and blue prototyp metal head, standard Align Motor/ESC. The only special was the lipo. It was a TP 6s1p 4500mah(20C) prototyp pack.

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06-21-2006 12:31 PM

Grant H
Key Veteran
Location: Maryland

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Even though they have a special version. so what?

Alan could probably fly a brick or a pile of dog poop better than most of us can fly helis.

06-21-2006 12:53 PM

HOMEPAGE

Gazzer
Veteran
Location: Hope Valley, UK

Tintin

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Hmmm

Never said they were perfect

The link above seems to be a problem with the bearings on the TT tail blade holder seperating. Conjecture is that part of the problem could be unbalanced or damaged tail blades! Regardless I think if you took a poll of TT owners and asked them if they had a problems with the tail compared to owners of an Align SE we would have a better understanding of the scale of the problem.

06-21-2006 01:04 PM

dkshema
rrProfessor
Location: Cedar Rapids, IA

Why is pointing out poor quality parts equated to "whining"?

Fine, go ahead and continue to pay your hard earned money for second rate quality. Continue to tell yourself that it's ok to buy a kit, then have to systematically replace the crap parts that came with the kit just to get a kit that will fly well.

Align has been shipping for over two years. And getting away with murder when it comes to their quality. Helicopters that routinely disintegrate in mid-air, but that's OK, because it's Align.

Go back and actually take a look a the number and type of quality issues posted on this thread in the past two years, and see how many of them still remain today. Go look at other threads on other kits -- you'll see some problems posted, but not the same problems over and over and over for going on two years.

If you insist that Align quality is on the same scale as Hirobo or Kyosho, then it is plainly obvious that you have never owned either of those manufacturer's kits.

Those of us who are "whining" maybe have gotten fed up with paying for junk, and having the almighty Align not really do anything about it. Instead of calling these people "whiners", why not join them and demand better quality out of your kit.

As for placing high in the XFC -- get a quality 3D pilot flying ANY kit, you have a good chance of placing high in the rankings. The contest outcome is based on the skill of the pilot, since without him, the heli will just sit on the ground and do nothing. And don't kid yourself into thinking these were stock, off the shelf production kits with no tweaking. In world class competition, that rarely happens with ANY kit that is flying.

Wouldn't that benefit ALL of those flying T-Rexes, or would you just rather continue to accept stuff that from most other manufacturers would be called what it is -- junk.

Dave

06-21-2006 01:24 PM

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