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e-E-Flite Blade CP CX 400-3D > Bell-Hiller Upgrade A Must
 
 
bell1684
Senior Heliman
Location: North Kingstown, RI USA

Just threw the Bell-Hiller upgrade on my blade after a chili-dipping experience following a loop that was executed too close to the ground on my first flight Saturday morning (Murphy's Law that I crash on the first flight of a long weekend). Luckily I had all the parts to get her back into the air within a couple of hours.

All I can say is the Bell-Hiller upgrade should be a must-do upgrade for any intermediate/advanced Blade flyer (right next to the AEK & Lipos). The cyclic response is now finally crisp & sensitive like I always wanted it to be. Pulled off my first good quality loops and rolls on my second flight with the upgrade. My setup:

Stock setup except:
AEK
TP 3s1320 (avg 15 minute FFF times)
No flybar weights


Most satisfying to me is how precise slow circuits & hovering are now. This upgrade will definitely test those who are "heavy" on the sticks, but if you're gentle you'll be rewarded by the lack of slop in the head & the immediate control the B-H upgrade provides!
05-28-2006 Over year old.
 
 
drgnfly004
Senior Heliman
Location: renton, wa, USA

yes its a must Have

I put one on mine when thay first hit t e market and it was the best upgrade i've done yet I also have the aluminum swash and s3107 servos and man it flys nice
question for you though what is the "AEK" you mentioned I have heard it discused but don't know what it is
just never asked before

stay out of trees
05-29-2006 Over year old.
 
 
CrashTestPilot
Key Veteran
Location: Laguna Niguel, CA

It's the Aerobatic Enhancement Kit consisting of symmetrical blades, a replacement motor with different pinion (9 tooth) and heat sinks for main and tail rotor. When used with 3 cell lipo, the Blade is a much nicer heli.
05-29-2006 Over year old.
 
 
drgnfly004
Senior Heliman
Location: renton, wa, USA

Duh......
I think that was my first upgrade
never been good with acronyms
thanks now I won't sound stupid

stay out of trees
05-29-2006 Over year old.
 
 
Blind PilotHeliman - Location: Eleanor WV U.S.A. -
The Bell Hiller is great... But like quoted before.. Don't be Heavy Handed with it. Very percise for sure.

















Keep Flying and Have Fun
05-30-2006 Over year old.
 
 
SBB
Heliman
Location: Syracuse, NY

Vocabulary, guys...

It is NOT more "precise". It IS more "Unstable".
05-31-2006 Over year old.
 
 
theShark
Senior Heliman
Location: Miami, FL

Those who can fly will call it responsive, newbies will call it unstable or twitchy
05-31-2006 Over year old.
 
 
futuramille
Veteran
Location: SC USA

Upgrading to Bell hiller is a mechanical increase in cyclic response. It is not a destabilizing change. A destabilizing change is removing the flybar weights. removing the flybar weights reduces the centrifigal force of the rotor when spinning...destabilizing it and making it quicker to change its attitude.

Bell hiller simply reduces the amount of rotation needed before swashplate movement is transfered to the flybar. There is no change in stability with the simple addition of a bell hiller system.



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.....I need more batteries!!!
05-31-2006 Over year old.
 
 
bell1684
Senior Heliman
Location: North Kingstown, RI USA

Quote 
Those who can fly will call it responsive, newbies will call it unstable or twitchy


Thank you for saving me from having to correct the newbie
05-31-2006 Over year old.
 
 
willi_m
Heliman
Location: Canada

You guys are funny.
Nothing be "a must" in this life, excepted few things :-))
05-31-2006 Over year old.
 
 
Bill8Bud
Senior Heliman
Location: Rocklin CA

Only musts in life are you have to breathe, pay taxes, and die.

Soap bottle body, LG Ugrade, DD Tail, Thunder Power 1320 Lipo, Autorotation gear, and 9 tooth motor
05-31-2006 Over year old.
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bell1684
Senior Heliman
Location: North Kingstown, RI USA

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Only musts in life are you have to breathe, pay taxes, and die.


And to fly it like you stole it!!
06-01-2006 Over year old.
 
 
TRex4life
Veteran
Location: Phoenix AZ

or fly it like your parents bought it!
06-01-2006 Over year old.
 
 
turboomni
Elite Veteran
Location: 63 Rambler Down By The Dumpster

I like the Bell Hiller upgrade alot but I'm going to try the setup on the "Unreal Blade CP Video" 10 T motor with Lipoly instead of the 9T for better head speed and go back to stock non Bell Hiller setup.
Since the headspeed is faster cyclic will be better even with the stock head setup. Seeing his heli fly so well [he has alot to do with it!] I'm going to try it. Anyone else try it yet?

Setup is everything, All my heli's can fly better than I can pilot them
06-01-2006 Over year old.
 
 
bell1684
Senior Heliman
Location: North Kingstown, RI USA

I actually tried it (before the Bell-Hiller upgrade) because my motor with the 9 tooth pinion on it died and all I had was the original motor with the 10 tooth on it.

I wasnt all that crazy about the performance. It was more stable in the hover for sure but overall it certainly didnt perform like the Blade on the "Unreal Blade CP Video" but I guess that shows its more about the pilot than the bird itself.


Be sure to write back with your impressions of it once you've had a chance to try it for yourself.
06-01-2006 Over year old.
 
 
turboomni
Elite Veteran
Location: 63 Rambler Down By The Dumpster

10 T motor + AEK+Lipo Findings

I didn,t remove the Bell/Hiller but instead put the flybar weights back on to simulate the stock head responce. Put the 2 heat sinks on from the 9T on the 10T ,set the gears up and took off. 3 900Mah TP Lipo's.
Head speed noticably faster but not by a huge amount. Cyclic was still very good and FFF was faster as well because of the higher head speed. All manuvers were smoother and more in control. Stall turns ,,semi funnels and snaking through tight spots on my dead end road were improved in the handling. Main Motor heat was actually Less than the 9T but not alot less. Setup is important!
The tail holds better as you can do things with the higher head speed and less pitch to do the same thing compared to the 9T .
Climbouts were better actually BUT you never use anything close to full collective. When the motor bogs even alittle bit back off collective to keep the headspeed high. Same as the 9T at least for me but better climb.
I will say that you must anticipate more to keep head speed up and collective management is even more critical. Guys who frequently use max collective and slam sticks and leave them there will not like a 10T motor for long. It will bog easier because of even less torque than the 9T and will burn out sooner.
Max collective of 10 degrees +- is icing on the cake. It's way too much for the stock motor+ Gyro with ANY pinion. In my mind the high pitch capable on the Blade CP on any stock type setup is only there to be used to as a last resort to halt a rapid decent or emergency situation. When used it will overpower the stock tail[unless you compensate the tail} Otherwise ..smooth and smooth anticipated turns are required ,,actually the same as with the 9T but abit more. You must plan ahead as the power and gyro isn't there to power you out of every situation on any Stock Blade CP.
So far I love it,,it reminds me of the early Shogun V1's problems and as usual if you get the head speed UP and the pitch Down you are better off and have a much better flying heli. My fingers hardly move on the TX.

Setup is everything, All my heli's can fly better than I can pilot them
06-03-2006 Over year old.
 
 
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