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e-Align T-REX 450-500-600 > Whos gettin the 600?
 
 
helicrazi
Senior Heliman
Location: Beaumont, CA.

I'll do it Mon. at the stationery store they have a postal scale, we'll have to add the wieght of the sevro's on the T Rex 600 haven't picked them up yet, still waiting on the one wrong brg. should have just ordered one for Boca brg, would have had it day's ago!!! oh well
helicrazi
07-09-2006 Over year old.
 
 
GScott
Key Veteran
Location: Lewis Center, OH

Perhaps cabbageman can explain this great Mikado quality. Plastic swash balls. Plastic linkage balls on the head and tail. Bushings where there should be bearings. Plastic parts the need to be reamed out with an X-Acto knife so they will fit. A canopy that is nothing short of crap. All this and you still get to pay more for parts. And this was on a new Logo 10 Deluxe just a few months ago. And before you post the obligatory "you should have gotten the Logo 10 3D". All that would have gotten was 4 extra ball bearings and a metal swash. No thanks.
07-09-2006 Over year old.
 
 
filtvet2
Senior Heliman
Location: Norway

I'll boy it sometime, bit I will not be the first one. Better wait until the bugs are fiexed.

Alas quality! Of cource. A Mercedes is better than a Ford. But it all comes down to a price. And parts availability! It is very hard to get parts for the Logo where I live. I go for T-rex!

Thor
07-09-2006 Over year old.
 
 
Cabbageman
Heliman
Location: LOL!

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They have already "forced" Mikado to lower the price on the Logo 10.



LOL, that seems like pure speculation to me. If anything "forced" mikado to reduce there prices it, was the century swift more than anything.

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I still predict that with the way Align quickly address their production issues, the TRex 600 will still trump the other E-Helis.


Now Im really LMAO. Where the hell have you been. I still CANT buy a freakin ROUND gear from align! I still can get good bearings from align. They are peices of SH!T.


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Perhaps cabbageman can explain this great Mikado quality


Atleast their parts are consitent and WORK. I mean damn, aligns parts are CNC cut and they still have crap tolerance.

Seems like a lot of anti Mikado people around. Beats me why..



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Alas quality! Of cource. A Mercedes is better than a Ford. But it all comes down to a price. And parts availability! It is very hard to get parts for the Logo where I live. I go for T-rex!



I definatey understand where your coming from though. Rc stuff in Norway is super expensive (Ive spent some time there).
07-10-2006 Over year old.
 
 
Ray Nemovi
Veteran
Location: SAN DIEGO CA

I dont know why you have to bad mouth other companies on public forums. Most people have been very happy with align. Maybe some of the parts on the trex 450 were not perfect but I not once had any issue with any of those parts. the heli was a hit. everyone had a great time with them. they did not break in the air. Now we have people left and right bad mouthing companies just because....not cool at all.

and for the trex 600, I have not flown anything this nice to date. first try and they got it. and where are you going to get a machine like this for 619 with motor, esc, bec and lipo pack for bec. Those guys at align have done a great job over the last few years. not to mention how well they treat their pilots and constantly making the products better. how calm I dont see you commenting on these issues.

Ray N.
07-10-2006 Over year old.
 
 
steph280
Key Veteran
Location: Irvine, California

Mr. Cabbageman,

You are not accomplishing anything here with your negative posts. There are those who have purchased a T-Rex 600 and have nothing but good comments about it, and then those who haven't even seen one and just bad mouth Align all day long. You really need to get a life and stop trolling around feeding people crap based on some made up theories of yours. Until you build a T-Rex 600 and fly it, every little opinion you post here are just pure BS.

You are going to pick up a Raptor electric? If I was Thunder Tiger I'd be afraid to sell you one. You'd probably post all over the net when you find a wrinkle on your instruction manual. And how would you know that kit will be trouble free? I don't see ThunderTiger hiring the best of best pilots from all over the world and fly them into the factory to test the kits. All they do is use and abuse relationships with great pilots, and send the R&D to some group in UK because they have no clue how to build a proper electric heli.

Not to turn this into a Thundertiger bashing thread (I also fly Raptor conversions), but I am just telling the troll here that whatever he buys, he will not be happy with it. Because all you will do is sit on the computer all day nitpicking the kit instead of flying. If you need so much attention, go get a dog or something.
07-10-2006 Over year old.
 
 
helicrazi
Senior Heliman
Location: Beaumont, CA.

Ok didn't have enough time to really do yhis right, and couldn't find the weight of the blades.

Tha E Raptor 50 se redi for flight 8lb 8oz
the battery 1200gr

The T Rex 600 CF, every thing excludeing, servos and blades 5lb 6oz
have to add servos (3)x 1.80oz (1) @ 1.70oz
600mm blades ?
the battery was installed it is 570gr
hope this help's

helicrazi
07-10-2006 Over year old.
 
 
steph280
Key Veteran
Location: Irvine, California

That sounds about right. My Raptor is about 8lbs with 10s2p and Hacker C50 on box. T-Rex 600 is almost 2 lbs lighter!
07-10-2006 Over year old.
 
 
phanliu
Senior Heliman
Location: Rockford, IL - United States

yo cabbageman

why r u even wasting time in this TREX forum if u think align is crap... i have to say that ur really creative to have some invented theory of ur own about align. i'd say u should be hanging around logo forums!!! ur in the wrong place dude and surely u need to find ur way back out of here... u seem to have expressed ur feelings about align in a very positive way of ur own but dude u've only owned the first generation trex so chill with the 600. i think these feelings that u've been expressing is the reflection of ur own personality... IF U CAN'T AFFORD TO OWN A 600 or IF UR JEALOUS ABOUT IT'S PERFORMANCE THAT'S BETTER THAN LOGO then man no one can help u out of this so just chill and take a hike somewhere else and find ppl of ur caliber to share ur great feelings about align with.

and please don't spoil this forum by adding ur own ampified opinions. THANK YOU.
07-10-2006 Over year old.
 
 
The_Dave
Veteran
Location: Las Vegas, Nevada

~

My experience has been that departing tail rotors are more the fault of the builder than that of the manufacture. I have built a machine or two in my day and I have made mistakes along the way, it is what I did with those mistakes that makes all the difference.

I too have a T-Rex. I fly the SNOT out of it. When I built it I took a few days and made sure that everything was right. I put Loc-Tite where it was required. I laced in my electronics for a neat and clean install. And now I fly it, a lot. I have nothing more to do when I am done flying than to blow the dust off of it and put it away.

I often get asked, "why does your T-Rex fly so well, what did you change?” People are dumbfounded when I tell them that all I did was put it together.

I see it all the time at our field, machines that are so badly assembled one has to wonder how they just don't fall apart on the bench. I would say 1 in 10 really know what they are doing when it comes to proper assembly. I built my Fury 3 years ago; I have never had to do a single thing to it, nothing. I have not worn out a bearing or a galled a main shaft, or stripped a gear, or chaffed a servo wire, nothing. Why, because I took a good solid two weeks to build the machine.

I think that all this Align bashing is crap, if you do not know what you are doing, that’s ok just so long as you put the blame where it belongs, on you. Poor is the carpenter that blames his tools!

Mark McAlpine - 2005 - We will never forget.
07-10-2006 Over year old.
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helicrazi
Senior Heliman
Location: Beaumont, CA.

[quote]That sounds about right. My Raptor is about 8lbs with 10s2p and Hacker C50 on box. T-Rex 600 is almost 2 lbs lighter!

Wow I wonder way mine is 8.8, I've lighten the frame, went to ccpm, no box useing the direct drive conv. a hacker A 50 12S FRP canopy,

Yes the 600 is a lot lighter, and should do alot better, I like the frame can't wait for TT's E Raptor I wonder what it will weigh ?
I don't think you can beat Align or Thunder Tiger, as for bang for the buck, replacement part price's and with all the great upgrades from so many differant manufactures, very competitive prices.
I also have a Logo 10 and it's quality is A-1 and when the price went down due to the swift I jumped on it. it's size is great for were I live, But it's not apples to apples, two differant size birds. I would like to have a Logo 24 but the price is just too much IMO. I have seven E heli's in all and I'm happy with them all, if I don't like some thing I just find a way to improve it to my likeing, this is a fun hobby, and IMO thats what it's all about, haveing fun are there really any perfect heli kit's ?
When the Eco 8 Royal come's out I'll get one and the TT E Raptor.
helicrazi
07-10-2006 Over year old.
 
 
steph280
Key Veteran
Location: Irvine, California

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That sounds about right. My Raptor is about 8lbs with 10s2p and Hacker C50 on box. T-Rex 600 is almost 2 lbs lighter!

Wow I wonder way mine is 8.8, I've lighten the frame, went to ccpm, no box useing the direct drive conv. a hacker A 50 12S FRP canopy


My ship started out as Raptor V1 so already it's lighter than current V2. Then I went to tppacks' fiberglass canopy, TT carbon landing gears, and TDG light heads. Oh and Mavrick carbon blades which are ligher than some of the higher peformance blades.
07-10-2006 Over year old.
 
 
MrMel
Elite Veteran
Location: Lidingo, Sweden

Dont know where you get your E-Raptor (mine is stock SE, fullsize servos) weights at, if I hang on a 6s2p battery, I get a weight of 7.45 pounds (3380 grams)
According to Nick Maxwell his AUW on the 600 was 3100 grams (6.83 pounds)

Sure my E-Raptor goes up with the 10s2p packs, but then it should be compared to a 600 with 10s2p as well.

So "bare stock" without batteries the 600 is around 0.6 pounds lighter then a "stock" E-Raptor (SE)

Someone else that has other much lighter AUW weight on the 600?
07-10-2006 Over year old.
 
 
gordo high
Senior Heliman
Location: down yonder in the south

Boy did this thread go south. Anyway, I got my 600 today. Joe from tech-mp shipped it sat., and I already have it....

Honey, I just need this one more thing and then I'm set..
07-10-2006 Over year old.
 
 
Cabbageman
Heliman
Location: LOL!

steph280,
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You really need to get a life


In reality, you and several others have essentialy "gang" fed me the same amount of crap. Your retaliations and personal attacks towards me puts you down to the same level. Think about it...

This is a forum and because I dont think going with align is a poor choice doesnt mean my oppinion shouldnt be heard. People make assumptions of my experience in the heli field simply because I say the Trex450 has crap bearings and and a deformed gear. My coments are taken, misunderstood, and clearly blown out of proportion.

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IF U CAN'T AFFORD TO OWN A 600 or IF UR JEALOUS ABOUT IT'S PERFORMANCE THAT'S BETTER THAN LOGO


Thats completly rediculous. I thought many people argue that the trex600 is so cheap compared to other comparable helis. If I can afford logo series, yet alone an IonX. Im sure I can afford a Trex. LOL im jeolous of the Trex... MY A$$
07-10-2006 Over year old.
 
 
steph280
Key Veteran
Location: Irvine, California

You are correct this is a forum and even trolls have rights to express their opinions. Except we're talking about a ship in which you have absolutely no experience with before. Your limited experiences on a T-Rex 450 doesn't give you authority to make judgement against anything Align puts out. While it's no secret there are some flaws on the T-Rex 450 kits, Align is probably the fastest manufacturer to put out revisions correcting these problems. And after all the positive reports on the T-Rex 600 from people who have built them, you still jump in feeding people ancient history problem with your T-Rex 450.

I do business and I know how difficult it is to build reputation, and how easily reputation can be destroyed. Between the first T-Rex 450x kit I owned and the current T-Rex 600CF, I'd say Align has made some serious improvements in design and quality. If you can't recognize that and are still stuck at a T-Rex450 which you can't get it to fly right, go spam in a T-Rex 450 thread. We're talking a different bird now.
07-10-2006 Over year old.
 
 
kookboy
Key Veteran
Location: Vancouver, BC -up north and Seattle, WA down south

Isn't this a T-Rex 600 thread ?



... But honey it was only $$$
07-10-2006 Over year old.
 
 
Cabbageman
Heliman
Location: LOL!

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I would never get the 600. "You will shoot your eye out kids"

Seriously Align stinks compared to mikado. Its a big WASTE.



That was my first post in this thread. I answered the question Whos gettin the 600?

I actually am not the one who went way off topic. Im also sorry but, oppinions cannot be valid or invalid, they simply exist. Its how what I think, and if you dont like it, too bad, thats life.
07-11-2006 Over year old.
 
 
filtvet2
Senior Heliman
Location: Norway

I've alredady tried a Logo 20. Quite 'plastic' i think. And quite fragile.

When the local dealer quit there was no others to supply spare-parts (which are expensive anyway).

I go for Align.

Thor
07-15-2006 Over year old.
 
 
Skiddz
Veteran
Location: Carlsbad, CA

I'm gettin' one...

Oh wait.. I already got mine. Yet another "victim" of tech-mp and Joe Orlando. 2 days from CT to CA... Amazing.

Gordo, got yours built yet? I start assembly tomorrow!

A helicopter is 10,000 parts spinning rapidly around an oil leak.
07-15-2006 Over year old.
 
 
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