Gazzer Veteran Location: Hope Valley, UK
| rdlohr
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| In the parks I fly in, noise is a factor...
| While I don't doubt noise could be an issue if you have local laws and regulations but on a flying field big enough for a 50class heli is noise level on the perimeter of the field that much different? If it's because there are homes adjoining the park or people in the park then it suggests that is not the correct location for the Trex 600 anyway
kookboy
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| 47 people I know personally have pre-ordered the T-Rex 600.
They all own Trex 450's and I'll let you know something.
42 of them are beginner's and roughly half of them can barely do a standard circuit.
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But I wonder if the 42 beginners have really made an informed choice. When they have to start going to proper flying fields to use their heli's and see what the guys are doing with the nitro's and see all the dissadvantages of having a 50size e-heli.....me wonders if they will think they made a mistake
rockier
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| I would like to know why it is a great move for Thunder Tiger to come out with a 50 size electric heli and not for Align or any other company.
Do not use the reason that just because they came out with a Trex-450 or mini heli first. That does not fly with me.
If the market is right to come out with a 50 size electric now then any company that does not go for it now is dumb.
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From Thunder Tigers point of view..... why not? They already have the helicopter.... for them the conversion to electric is so easy...nothing new at all really. I have no doubt they saw Align coming out with a 50 class so, why let them have it there own way. The difference for Align is that they will have had to invest serious amounts of money in this heli, they need big sales just to break even, I would think TT would be happy with a few 1000 a year!
Heliboy1100
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| So you may have gone to a Trex to fly in areas where you can't fly your Raptor 30. But for the same reason I would get a Trex 600, to fly at my local field because my Trex 450XL is too small. You DON'T buy a 600 to fly in a confined area electric or not.
| Exactly my point, I think you really understand what few Trex600 fans seem willing to admit. The 600 is a new breed....something your gonna have to fly down at the local flying club. My point is therefore, what advantage the Trex 600? Why not a 50 nitro, enjoy the noise & the smell and have something that's gonna be a more flexible in terms of flying times and flights per day, without the worry of exploding and expensive LiPo's and probably most important of all, you can choose a helicopter with a proven track record, no matter its from TT, Hirobo, JR. The point is Align are now going head to head with the big boys......I think their gonna find it an extremely tough market!
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| As far as Nitro vs. Battery. This I admit to be a little biased on. I live in a rural city, where the closest hobby shop is over 100 miles away. And they don't know much about helis. So nitro is far too much of a consumable compared to nitro for me. Plus again if the argument is made that Trex fan will be lured to the 600, I'm assuming that just like mw they already have the necessary chargers and such for electric flight. So why switch to nitro now. The tech for electric is now such that it is very close to rivaling nitro, is my understanding.
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Very good point, if the fuel is not available then you don't have much choice. While having chargers etc is valid I wonder if when people start doing that math to work out how much there going to spend on batteries etc if the cost of a charger is significant, anyway you would still need a charger for the receiver battery
oldboldpilot
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| There must be a huge 50 sized electric market. Just look at the new high-end entries..Mini-Joker and Miniature Aircraft 50. And there already is the Logo 14 carbon, king of the hill right now.
Lots of folks have a lot of money, and, by the end of summer, they will have some really nice new toys to play with
You also have the Raptor 50 electric conversion vying for a piece of the overall market, and now also here comes Align.
Sounds to me as if there is a market in the thousands for 50 sized electrics..
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Well this is where I think your wrong. E-helis are not new, some have been around for years others more recent. Granted maybe not 50 class but what was wrong with a 30 class e-heli. Why have we not seen more larger e-heli's at the flying fields allready, where are all the Logo 14's? Especially given that you claim price is no object! If you look at the companies that are producing exclusively e-heli's they tend to be smaller, 'less well known', that could be for a very good reason! To me Align is gonna be looking for volume sales, particularily if they are going to sell the kit at lower prices. Here's where I think they have made a mistake, not that the heli will be crap, not that there is no market, not that some people will not buy for all sorts of reasons, but when I hear the arguement I gonna but a Trex 600 because my 450 is great.... well I doubt very much their going to be singing the same song 6months down the line. Again all IMHO.
Sorry guys.... i can feel the headaches starting again.....I just find this whole topic very interesting: |