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Thunder Tiger Raptors 30-90 - Imperio > What gets more flight time per dollar, electric or gas?
 
 
Tday
Key Veteran
Location: Needham, MA

Right, but if you read my post carefully, i find the Lepton performs as well or better than my 90. So it's not a Raptor 30 to a Raptor 90 comparison---an obviously inappropriate comparison. So my *context* was that I consider them equivalent performers (actually the Lepton better)---i.e. *meaningful* depends on your equivalence. btw, I would not consider the 600 equivalent to my 90---it's power to weight isn't there, though it *is* bigger than a Lepton.

So that was the point---where you stand on this depends on where you sit.

Tom
PS: Electrics---at least in the 500 size, are clearly changing the calculus of what it means to be equivalent. If you have occasion to try one, you'll know. Power to weight is something else.

2 + 2 = 5 for extremely large values of 2.
03-17-2007 Over year old.
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mcfast
Veteran
Location: Canada

"What gets more flight time per dollar, electric or gas" do you mean nitro! because with my Gasser, I can get over 3 hours of flying on a gallon of gas at $4.00 a gallon, now that is cheap, electrics cant get close to that.
03-17-2007 Over year old.
 
 
Tday
Key Veteran
Location: Needham, MA

I don't think anything can touch that on pure economy. And there are some very nice gasser ships out there.

2 + 2 = 5 for extremely large values of 2.
03-17-2007 Over year old.
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vic88my
Heliman
Location: Malaysia

$4.00 per gallon, so cheap? May I know what brand and how much % nitro in it ? I used to play nitro cars and it is near to $20 per gallon.

Is the heli flyable with so little nitro ? Will it spoil the engine ?
03-17-2007 Over year old.
 
 
GimbalFan
Elite Veteran
Location: Copter County, Nv

Vic, there's 2-stroke nitro engines which are specifically designed to use fuels with a blend of methane and other ingredients to achieve the highest possible HP output at the lowest possible weight.

There's also what are called 'gasser' engines which are designed to use less exotic and therefore less expensive fuels like camp stove fuel, etc. They get much longer flight durations but the trade off is that they're heavier and output less HP for their weight and size. Heli's fly well with them but are less capable of the snappier head-turning 3D maneuvers that nitro helis are known for.

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03-17-2007 Over year old.
 
 
vic88my
Heliman
Location: Malaysia

ok, I get you now. I supposed you mean gasser are those big 25 cc engine etc. But, In Malaysia most non electric helis are nitros and no gassers, that is why we use nitro fuel.
03-17-2007 Over year old.
 
 
firefox
Senior Heliman
Location: Thailand

Well, that's really what I'm saying. If people don't actually establish a standard for comparison, then anyone could say "XXX is to me comparable to XXX", and do cost comparisons. I just say, at least get the size and performance to be the same, then no one can argue that they're in a different league (and be correct). Size *does* matter, and so does performance, the same way we don't compare the fuel economy of motorcycles to SUVs, it's just not meaningful.

This the reason why people can get strange configs like gassers and 0% nitro and uber-cheap batteries into the mix. They *work* but they're not the typical configs that people would be expected to use normally for performance.
03-18-2007 Over year old.
 
 
Tday
Key Veteran
Location: Needham, MA

yawn.
03-18-2007 Over year old.
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firefox
Senior Heliman
Location: Thailand

That's right, insults always work well to help further the forum. A standing ovation to you!
03-18-2007 Over year old.
 
 
nivlek
Elite Veteran
Location: Norfolk England

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NO MICRO HELI is good for learning!!!

That's well worth repeating , so

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NO MICRO HELI is good for learning!!!

At the end of the day , it gets dark .
03-18-2007 Over year old.
 
 
Old Red
Senior Heliman
Location: Borrego, California

Fuel for the fire:

http://www.runryder.com/helicopter/t333085p1/

Go nitro!

Red
03-25-2007 Over year old.
 
 
fredwally
Heliman
Location: Melbourne, Australia

Any advice?

I am learning to fly with a micro electric. All i could afford.
What is the best way to go with about $700US?
03-30-2007 Over year old.
 
 
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