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The_nOOb
Heliman
Location: Madison, AL USA

I work with a guy who was the CD at the Huntsville (AL) Fun Fly this weekend (Terry Thomas). He has been telling me about these heli's for quite some time now, but I have only seen him hover in our shop, so I didn't get the full effect of how awesome these machines are until this weekend. I attended the FF and was completely blown away by the precision and speed these heli's are capable of.

I would love to learn to fly, but I want to first learn some of the terms I am seeing to familiarize myself with the basic mechanical workings of the heli's before I consider trying to fly one.

Are there any online FAQ's or articles that would be a good starting point to begin my quest to get airborne?

I have done some flying on the Real Flight G2 sim, how does this relate into learning the basic controls and maneuvers for flying. (I know this is not a replacement for the real deal, but just learning the general "This stick makes this happen..." basics?)

Thanks in advance, any help will be much appreciated!
"Taco"
05-01-2006 Over year old.
 
 
The man
Veteran
Location: at home

If you can hover in G2, it will be much easier to move on to the real one. The controls are the same. RR is a good place to start for info. CY's website also have a section on beginners.

http://www.curtisyoungblood.com/faq...egory=Beginners
05-01-2006 Over year old.
 
 
co_rotorhead
Senior Heliman
Location: Centennial, CO, USA

Spend some time reading the threads here in the Beginner's Corner. You can learn a lot here. Almost all of the questions you'll come up with (and there will be many) can be answered using the Search link here on RR.

Keep practicing (and practicing and practicing) with your G2 sim. I purchased the G3 version on 3/7/06 and spent an average of 1 to 2 hours a day practicing hovering. On 4/8/06, I had no problems at all holding a tail-in hover and sliding the heli to the right and left with my real Raptor 50 (with training gear) on my first try. Hovering my real heli was very similar --but not exactly-- like hovering in the sim.

I am now pretty comfortable hovering in all orientations in the sim -- even nose-in. On my real heli I am fairly comfortable hovering side-in and various 45 degree orientations but am going to wait a bit to try nose-in. I want to be absolutely confident before attempting that one.

Anyway, you're on the right track coming here. Have your friend check over your heli's setup as well as your radio configuration. Good luck.
05-01-2006 Over year old.
 
 
The_nOOb
Heliman
Location: Madison, AL USA

Thanks!

Thanks for the help so far guys.

I am looking for some definitions of many terms I hear on here that are of a different language to me. (Swash, aileron, what exactly is so hard about nose in???)

Just the questions everybody had before they started.

Thanks for the advice and links so far, keep 'em coming!
"Taco"
05-01-2006 Over year old.
 
 
co_rotorhead
Senior Heliman
Location: Centennial, CO, USA

The more you read here, the more you'll become familiar with the terminology. Most of it's pretty easy to understand. "Swash" is short for swashplate -- which is the part of the helicopter that the heli's aileron and elevator control arms connect to. The swashplate moves the main rotor disc forward, aft, left and right. Aileron, in heli terms, refers to the left and right roll movements of the main rotor disc. When tail-in, moving the cyclic (the right stick on most radios here in the US) to the left will cause the rotor disc to dip to the left. Conversely moving the stick right will dip the rotor disc to the right.

The reason nose-in hovering is tricky is because all controls are relative the the helicopter. While tail-in, left is left and right is right. While nose-in, it's just the opposite. Oh that and the helicopter is facing you waiting for you to nudge the cyclic up so it can fly directly into your astonished face.

Practice and patience are the most important aspects of success in this hobby.
05-01-2006 Over year old.
 
 
NoVNE
Senior Heliman
Location: normally N Attleboro, MA currently Kuwait

Fly The Sim!

All I can say is that I am a firm believer in the sim. I recieved my G2 sime in the mail three days ago and am confidently hovering my Walkera Dragonfly 22 now.

Of course I have to land it every five minutes when the Nicads run out and I smoked the motor today trying to use my friends Lipo batteries.

But the flying, that was all due to the simulator practice. Without a doubt.

Thad
05-02-2006 Over year old.
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Tommy2
Heliman
Location: Cecil, Ga.

Taco,

Go to www.natew.com/rcheli/frame_main.cgi/glossary/html.Index

That is a web page that gives you a very good glossary of heli terms. I have it printed out and pasted in my log book and refer to it VERY often.

Also a book,named "Ray's Authoritative Helicopter Manual" while being a little dated, has excellent information and pictures on various aspects of setting up a heli.

If at first you don't suceed, skydiving is not for you.
05-02-2006 Over year old.
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sl_guy
Heliman
Location: Salt Lake City, Utah

Practice on your sim as much as you could. Have someone checks your bird before you fly it. I found that the right setup makes a big different.
Buddy box would help you learn much faster than learning on your own
05-02-2006 Over year old.
 
 
flipped2left
Key Veteran
Location: indianapolis,in.

Nose in is like having an r/c car or boat coming straight at you but when you hit right steering you will see it going to the left of you, takes practice to get used to that.
i have had several cars and boats, not a prob for me

la la la la I can't hear you! la la la la la
05-02-2006 Over year old.
 
 
SkateFreak
Key Veteran
Location: Cambs UK/Luton

hey,
have a browse of www.raptortechnique.com

Thats a good site that will take you over the general build/setup and most things to do with heli's

-Jvr

Non-3D heli pilots are planker spys trying to bring down the heli community from the inside - Topher
05-02-2006 Over year old.
 
 
TangoUniform
Heliman
Location: Peyton, CO - US

Since we're talking sims a little bit, has anyone seen FS one on horizon? Anyone have inside info on how the helis work? I have G3 and with the settings for the environment set up I can make the helis hard to hover.. almost life like and wonder if they have done it any better.

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Nose in is like having an r/c car or boat coming straight at you but when you hit right steering you will see it going to the left of you, takes practice to get used to that.


I agree with you a little, as I used to race on and off road, but the eleveator is what really gets me. When I would race, I never really had to think about direction, flying... my poor birds
05-02-2006 Over year old.
 
 
The_nOOb
Heliman
Location: Madison, AL USA

Now that's what I was looking for. The glossary looks like it will be very useful, as will the "techniques" page liked to.

Thanks so much for the info so far! Please, keep it coming!

Thanks again,
Taco
05-02-2006 Over year old.
 
 
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