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Kyosho Caliber 30 & 60 - Concept - Nexus > Caliber 30?
 
 
byronman
Heliman
Location: Libby, MT.

Caught somone recently talking about a Kyosho Caliber 30, anyone else heard anything? Any picts?
01-09-2002 Over year old.
 
 
BladeRunner
Elite Veteran
Location: Ontario Canada. Member of "some sort" s

Caliber 30?

Oh no! Say it aint so, not another "face only a mother could love" like the Raptor? Hehehe-------BladeRunner.
01-09-2002 Over year old.
 
 
nexusnz
Senior Heliman
Location: Auckland/Taranaki, New Zealand

Caliber 30

I was lucky enough to see one fly over the Christmas break at the New Zealand Nationals and I was very impressed!
I serioulsy am thinking about trading my Nexus in to get one of these machines.
List price is US$350 for the kit and it also comes ARF with a OS32SXH for?????.

You can find heaps more info and pics about it on my website: http://kyoshoheli.xrs.net

Features:

*Molded plastic main frame and most parts to save cost while offer ease of maintenance;

*Owner choosable ECCPM control or mechanical mixing control in one package with no additional cost;

*Engine could be dropped out of the helicopter by loosing just 4 screws;

*All rotation points bearing equipped;

*Rotor head design with geometry where blade grip could be used forward or backward of the main blades for different delta setting;

*Pre-built, unadjustable 2.3mm stainless steel ball links for ease of setup;

*Belt driven first stage reduction for low noise operation;

*Belt driven tail with tail mounted rudder servo and beefed up tail boom supports;

*CG located fuel tank;

*Some parts exchangeable to metal parts of Caliber M50 for better performance;

*10mm hollow main shaft, and 6mm sprindle shaft for better strength.




Iain
01-09-2002 Over year old.
 
 
Michael_Fath
Senior Heliman
Location: Chugiak, AK

Shifting C.G.

Besides that canopy (youch!), the shifting C.G. in the non-CCPM version caught my eye. Heck, I'd still try one. I like the belt drive. If not anything else, it will raise the self esteem of my Raptor.

Mike
01-09-2002 Over year old.
 
 
Helimike
Senior Heliman
Location: Raymore Missouri USA

Caliber 30 canopy

I am the odd man out, I like the canopy on the Caliber 30! The heli as a whole looks good to me and I wan't one. ECCPM setup is not too hard to get use to and when setup correctly works exstreemly good.
Thanks for the info NEXUSNZ .
Michael

K.I.S.S.
01-21-2002 Over year old.
 
 
jasoncsc
Heliman
Location: Hong Kong

Caliber 30 photos of nexusnz

Hey Iain aka "nexusnz",

Nice photos and very detailed info.....but wait!

Seems like you have been to the 2001 Tokyo Show, because I see most photos are taken there. They look very familiar.....

More so is that the text detail description seems very familiar....You seem to know Mr. Kunii well from your site.....

No wonder! Most of the information are cut and paste from MY SITE!

Now, I look at your page and did not see any reference to my site.

In addition, I did not receive any message about you getting authorization from me about posting my site's information into yours.

So, what does this classify as?

Iain, its people like you that discourage me to continue to fly around the world and update my site. Why should I spend the time, money and effort to have someone like you take the pleasure of copying it to your site without my previous consent? You owe me a very good apology, Iain!

A very sad and mad Jason Chan
01-23-2002 Over year old.
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Todd
Senior Heliman
Location: Nashville, TN

Jason,

Who cares if he took those pictures from your site. You are not losing any money on this deal. You said yourself that your site is for information. So if he he places things on his site that is giving info to others, then hes helping to spread your word. I go tp your site every now and then, but for you to get mad at someones other site is wrong. You obviously love helis and doing your site, this is a hobby!!!
01-23-2002 Over year old.
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Mark Ryder
Administrator
Location: Encino, CA

Who cares if he took those pictures from your site.

I would care. I personally have $6000 invested in camera gear. Building a web site with any of my pictures would be completely unacceptable.

Mark Ryder
01-23-2002 Over year old.
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Raptor_in_Swede
Senior Heliman
Location: Stockholm /Sweden

Caliber 30 flight info

I have information on the flight characteristics of the Caliber 30:
Very low vibration levels, as the Caliber 50/60.
Probably due to the two-stage beltdrive.
As good in flight and hover as the Raptor 30.
A good low noise stock muffler.
First impression is that it will be a hard competitor to Raptor 30 and Hirobo Sceady 30 if Kyosho give it a competitive price.
But time will see.....

Raptor 30V1/TT39H/Hatori#415/GY401_9253
Hirobo GPH GT/TT50H/Hatori #544/GY401_9254
RD8000
01-23-2002 Over year old.
 
 
bxc53
Senior Heliman
Location: Directly over the center of the Earth

Question for Jason

Jason,

I visit your site regularly and find lots of good information and news about new products long before we see it in the States. Thanks for providing it.

Here's my question:

I doubt that I will ever build a web site, but I might occasionally wish to use a picture or short quote from your site to help answer a question here on RunRyder or elsewhere. Is it acceptable to do this if I provide a credit such as:

" Picture thanks to jason.net " or similar? If not, please let me know what is appropriate.

Again thanks for a great site.
01-23-2002 Over year old.
 
 
nexusnz
Senior Heliman
Location: Auckland/Taranaki, New Zealand

ummm

People wanted to know about the Caliber so thats what I did.
And I'm sorry if i hurt you.
01-23-2002 Over year old.
 
 
Todd
Senior Heliman
Location: Nashville, TN

First of all the cost to have a site such as Jasons in less than $30 a month. He obviously does this at his own will. I cant believe this has become such an issue, the poor guy was just trying to help others. I understand Jason work hard at his site, but its something he enjoys. Hes not doing all that work for us!
01-24-2002 Over year old.
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Helimike
Senior Heliman
Location: Raymore Missouri USA

Caliber 30 info.

Raptor_in_Swede were you one of the fourtunate wones to see the Caliber fly? The muffler looks rathere Small from the picture, is it good on power and quiet? Smoothe in flight is a good report too.
I wan't one for shure now!
Michael
Thanks

K.I.S.S.
01-24-2002 Over year old.
 
 
Raptor_in_Swede
Senior Heliman
Location: Stockholm /Sweden

Caliber 30 info

Sorry to say, it is not me who is the lucky guy.
But it is very experienced swedish RC Heli flier that is a friend of mine.
Hi says that some parts on the heli is not exactly like the prototypes in Jasonīs pictures .
But hi is very satisfied with the flight characterics and sound levels.
Hi also says that it is a big heli, in size with Caliber 50 (but shorter blades and boom) and visibly larger than a Raptor 30/50.
It seems also to be possible to upgrade the Caliber 30 with many parts from the Caliber 50.

By the way, I think itīs rather fun that this first neutral flight information on a new heli is comming from Sweden in the middle of winter and not from the normal RC Heli infocenters Japan,Hongkong or USA !

Raptor 30V1/TT39H/Hatori#415/GY401_9253
Hirobo GPH GT/TT50H/Hatori #544/GY401_9254
RD8000
01-24-2002 Over year old.
 
 
jasoncsc
Heliman
Location: Hong Kong

Caliber 30 photo

Hi guys,

To David, Brian, Todd, Mark and Iain, thank you for your various opinions and sorry that I have occupied some bandwidth of this site for a complaint. I would like to take up some more bandwidth here to make something clear, sorry Mark.

Iain, aside for the Caliber 30 bit, I have to congratulate you on your page well done. I do not see a lot of pages from the OZ, and I think yours would serve your community well. You have a good heart, no doubts about it, because as a webmaster myself I know how much work each webmaster has to go through to put their page online for others to enjoy. (Not to say those who do not have a web page does not have a good heart, I am glad that most people in this hobby possess a good heart) Next time, before you "cut and paste" someone's work, please send the author a note and get his permission before you put it online. I think most webmaster would be more than happy to give you permission to do so. Put yourself in my shoes, what would you feel if one of your pages that you put resources into writing suddenly turn up in someone else's site without letting you know?

Brian, for those who would like to put a link to my site or even would like to cut and paste contents of my page into yours. If you do, just send me a e-mail about your desire, and most of the times I would agree if its not for business purpose. The main point is just to let me know about your action before you put the page online. In this case, Brian, you are more than welcomed to use contents in my page for yours if required, my only request from you would be the information should be only used not for a business.

Todd, its not about money issue, but more on moral. Yes I do have the resource to serve web pages, cause I own an ISP, so its incremental cost for me to put up pages to serve on my servers. However, does that morally justify someone who cut and paste my work without my previous consent? In addition, if the intent of me putting up resources to write is, according to you, "not doing all that work for us!", then please enlight me who I am doing it for? With all due respect, Todd, it seems that you are saying its ok to take from me without my previous consent because I make myself available for my own enjoyment? Putting up a web page for all to enjoy, and having someone who cut and paste works of others into theirs' without the author's previous consent are completely different issues. In simple, one is "share" and another one is "plagiarism", my friend, and these two words are not synonymous to each other.

I make my page available because like most in this hobby I once had a lot of questions to ask, and wasted quite a bit of money, so I put up my page to try to help solve problems of others in this hobby. Call me naive, I am in this respect! I think this "naive" bit is one of the characteristics of most "not for profit" webmasters who put up their resource to write web pages of this hobby for others to enjoy. Am I right, Mark?


Regards,

Jason
01-24-2002 Over year old.
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byronman
Heliman
Location: Libby, MT.

You know what I think is cool?

The point of this question was to get some info on the Caliber 30...holy cow did I ever get informed . I have looked at more picts and read more text on this heli than I ever thought I might. THIS IS A GOOD THING! You know, thats what I think is neat about this web site and the internet in general, if you need to find some info on something it's more than likely going to be out there, no matter how unusual it may or may not be. I'd just like to say "thank you" to all of you who have put your own personal time in to these sites, God knows you deserve it.

It's too bad all question's in life couldn't be answered by simply turning on the computer...maybe they can be?

Thanks a bunch,
01-25-2002 Over year old.
 
 
shawkshelia
Heliman
Location: Atlanta

Jason's webpage

I don't know Jason's web address, could someone forward it to me, I'd
like to look it over.
Thanks,
KeithPlease delete or overlook this post, I found the webpage, sorry,
I'm just not real computer savy!
01-25-2002 Over year old.
 
 
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