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HIROBO Freya - Sceadu - Shuttle > New Hirobo Lepton EX Electric Heli
 
 
Old Red
Senior Heliman
Location: Borrego, California

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You get what you pay for.


I agree, but a 5s pack for the Logo 10-3D is only slightly more than a 4s pack (the Lepton may need a 5s as well), the Logo requires zero mods as well, widely supported, and is a bit larger which is usually better as well.

It is real tough in this market segment right now, and $600-$650 kit price in my opinion is laughable. Nearly twice the cost of the 3D. Yes it has more aluminum and carbon for those that feel they need it, but fantastic plastic is proven solid for helis and all most of us need for easier builds and durability.

Most don't care/need carbon, so the Carbon 10-3D is a poor seller, even the carbon 3D is $100-$150 less.

Some will say 5s won't cut 3D on a Logo 10, for 98% of us it will. The spec's on the Lepton are very close to the 10-3D; it will need just as much battery so don't bank on 5/6s.

They'll sell, but I'll take a Logo and a free Lipo pack please.

Red
04-17-2006 Over year old.
 
 
GScott
Key Veteran
Location: Lewis Center, OH

Sorry but it's unfair to compare this to a standard Logo 10. At best the Logo 10 carbon is the closest equivalent and it still doesn't have a full metal head. Just for clarification...the Logo 10 carbon is $500 and the 3D is $400 so it's not twice the price. I've also read on another forum that the frame is not carbon it's a magnesium alloy that is supposed to be stronger. It is also unclear if the price given is the MSRP. I know Jeff said street price but I wouldn't be surprised if it streets for less.

And according to all the Logo forums a Logo 10 needs more than 5s to be fully 3D capable.
04-17-2006 Over year old.
 
 
Rchover
Key Veteran
Location: Helping Customers!

Lepton = affordable power systems

we @ Rchover have high hopes for this Lepton and believe this is just the beginning for much more to come from hirobo in this competitive market , yeah the kit seems alittle pricy but your getting a completely Blinged mini 425mm blade sized heli ..CF frames , CNC parts etc etc..not to mention it is Hirobo Quality...

it's in a size class of it's own the only 2 helis you can compare it to are the eolo and voyager ...it's 25% bigger than a TREX 450 slightly bigger than a robbe eolo or JR voyager, the eolo used 385mm blades, voyager used 400-410mm blades, the Lepton uses 425mm blades..
(logo 10 uses 515mm the trex600 will use 600mm FYI)
looking at battery cost, esc ,motor combo:

we do not know what the best power systems will be til we can test but the powersystems are going to be more reasonable than you might think ...
batteries are getting Better and cheaper everyday if we look at the new align 3s 2100 16c(some say BETTER than TP bats) for $65 ea x2 we are looking at a cost of only $130 per flight pack....we estimate that a 45amp esc should work well but to be conservative lets add the cost of the align 75 amp esc for 90$ so lets figure $90

Motors ? not sure but one of the first motors we are going to test is the medusa 28-56-??? kv motors these motors produce gobbs of power , top quality and 2 year warranty and only cost 99$ so if you add it up we are looking at so really affordable power systems for about $300 (I'm sure your favorite shops will put package deal power systems together for you

Parts supply and support will be Excellent and I'm sure they will be in line with other hirobo parts pricing which is reasonable.

this heli is going to top notch....once it gets out there and pilots see it ... I'm sure it will be a popular bird

Jeremy
04-18-2006 Over year old.
 
 
ReadyHeli
rrAdvertiser
Location: Jupiter, FL

One other thing to consider is it's an "EX" out of the box...compared to an Eagle, its almost 1/3rd the price...and no one can dispute the quality of the Eagle...

Im interested in seeing the battery "docking" system when its available. From what I understand, your pack will remain in a battery bunker and slide into a interface on the heli...Jeff Green and I computed wattages and looks like 3S is only 11 watts less then a 4S setup...given preliminary data to work with. SO 3S2P may be the pack of choice here.

John @ Readyheli
04-18-2006 Over year old.
 
 
CT.Chopper
Senior Heliman
Location: Meriden, CT

A lot of people keep refering the price to a trex,

buy a se for 530, toss the speed control and the motor away,
( cause the motor don't last long and the speed control is junk)
so add another 160. looks like 690.00 for a trex,

now add in a new main gear and tail pulley's cause the stock ones are out of round probably another 50 bucks 740.00

i'm quite sure the carbon and machining are 1000 times better than the rex, and i think that a lot of guy's are right, you get what you pay for.

oh yea, if you forget to "fix" the swash on a rex add in the repair
cost to that.

i betcha the Lepton's swash don't fall apart !

Rob Landry.
04-18-2006 Over year old.
 
 
GScott
Key Veteran
Location: Lewis Center, OH

Someone posted on another forum that the frame is not carbon but some magnesium alloy. Can anyone confirm?

John,

Will you be carrying this heli as well? What motor are you thinking for this? Hacker A30-8XL?
04-18-2006 Over year old.
 
 
CT.Chopper
Senior Heliman
Location: Meriden, CT

EX, is Carbon

look at the pics of the frames in the first post,
the close up of the motor/gear is a aluminum frame.

Rob Landry.
04-18-2006 Over year old.
 
 
Laurens
Key Veteran
Location: NL, behind my computer

Can't believe some comments in this thread.... All fuel flyers who know almost nothing about E.

This heli has 425mm blades, so in this size and a little bit lower its the best, and can't be compared to E. If you put 5s in it you'll have too much rpm on the head. 4s already has 2600 which is enough for the most extreme 3D without bogging.

I don't know how people compare it to a Trex... This is just a junk heli imho. Also the blades are 10 cm smaller, almost like comparing a 50 to a 90...

I heard from the Dutch hirobo dealer the mainframes are magnesium alloy, and for 800 euro you have an almost complete kit. This includes charger, batts, motor, blades. All you need is to add gyro/servo's/Rx.
04-18-2006 Over year old.
 
 
Rchover
Key Veteran
Location: Helping Customers!

last I spoke with Jeff it will be coming with the CF frames rather than the metal frames

Jeremy
04-18-2006 Over year old.
 
 
Old Red
Senior Heliman
Location: Borrego, California

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Can't believe some comments in this thread.... All fuel flyers who know almost nothing about E.

This heli has 425mm blades, so in this size and a little bit lower its the best, and can't be compared to E. If you put 5s in it you'll have too much rpm on the head. 4s already has 2600 which is enough for the most extreme 3D without bogging.


You'll see 5s shoe-horned in for a true HV effecient setup. Motor KV and gearing is what determines headspeed, along with cell count, so who knows almost nothing now.

We don't know yet that 2600 = no bogging.

Red
04-18-2006 Over year old.
 
 
Havoc
Key Veteran
Location: Ky.

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I don't know how people compare it to a Trex... This is just a junk heli imho.


The T-rex is not a junk heli. I owned a junk heli and that is called a shogun. But I still got it to fly well.
04-18-2006 Over year old.
 
 
Laurens
Key Veteran
Location: NL, behind my computer

Then it'll be 8s instead of 5s....

5s will either be TOO heavy, or TOO short flying times.
04-18-2006 Over year old.
 
 
ReadyHeli
rrAdvertiser
Location: Jupiter, FL

Why dont we all just wait and see how the testing goes next month...Im sure you all have very valid points...but without accurate data we are all shooting in the dark at the best electronics to outfit the Lepton with.



John @ Readyheli
04-18-2006 Over year old.
 
 
drdot
Elite Veteran
Location: So. California, Orange County.

fwiw..

One thing for sure..definitely a Spektrum radio!

John.
04-18-2006 Over year old.
 
 
ReadyHeli
rrAdvertiser
Location: Jupiter, FL

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fwiw..

One thing for sure..definitely a Spektrum radio!

John.


Only if its been modified to fit in the 6102.



John @ Readyheli
04-18-2006 Over year old.
 
 
Brian Bennett
Key Veteran
Location: Dugway/Tooele UT, USA

New Christmas wish

It appears to be a very nice heli. IMO: Its not out of line with what people are currently paying for the TREX SE and considering the size step-up.

The head is very pretty bling and if it is anything like the Evo SD-G head (319.00 US), in performance it will be a winner. For over a year, I have been looking for a similar class replacement for my Eco 8 (12) (See my gallery). It has been running on a 4S voltage with 470 mm mains. In this regard, the size of the Lepton is just right for me.

If you weigh in Hirobo's track record on performance, robustness, and support? -nuff said. It is big enough to be more stable than the TREX/Shogun yet small enough to keep the electronics below that amp/voltage size where the price exponentially explodes. I hope there will be some good blade choices out there in this size. These are exciting times for us eheli folks, new kits, new battery technology and suppliers are changing the e-flight landscape.

B

Team MRC-Hirobo and Model Avionics Rep
04-18-2006 Over year old.
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CT.Chopper
Senior Heliman
Location: Meriden, CT

Spektrum Radio...

The only time i ever had to use that radio is when i set-up
a trex se for a friend.

nothing i did stopped the glitching,

I am certan that the Lepton will not
have that problem.

The spektrum is nice i hope the other companies
implement the 2.4ghz band
as an upgrade fot their better radios.

Rob Landry.
04-19-2006 Over year old.
 
 
ReadyHeli
rrAdvertiser
Location: Jupiter, FL

Yes.

John @ Readyheli
04-19-2006 Over year old.
 
 
nabi
Senior Heliman
Location: Holmdel, NJ (central)

Crash Parts Costs ?

looks like a really nice Heli !

anyone know the crash parts costs on this heli ?
main shaft, spindle, flybar, boom, boom supports,
landing gear, blades, etc.

just curious ...

thanks,
nabi.
04-19-2006 Over year old.
 
 
Rchover
Key Veteran
Location: Helping Customers!

parts cost should be inline with shuttle parts

and parts will be here the same time our kits arrive

Jeremy
04-19-2006 Over year old.
 
 
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