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HIROBO Freya - Sceadu - Shuttle > New Hirobo Lepton EX Electric Heli
 
 
dkshema
rrProfessor
Location: Cedar Rapids, IA

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Why don't we wait until the heli is actually available before we judge it a failure.


What would be the fun in THAT?!

Frankly, the biggest problem this heli will face will be the initial price tag of the bare naked kit.

Dave
04-14-2006 Over year old.
 
 
z11355
rrMaster
Location: 10000 is enough time wasted.

the alternative analysis is that the cheap cast alum of Align
doesn't hold a candle to Hirobo. I've seen nothing to indicate
that the T600 will change that. without knowing the details
of how it's made, simply saying 'oh, its CNC'd' is totally
meaningless.

the Lepton is clearly marketed as an 'EX' which means it's going
to be the top of the line w/ all the bells and whistles. I'd
be pretty confident that Hirobo will come out w a non-EX (ie. non-OPT)
version for a MUCH more aggressive price.

Most of the top-end machines like the Freya EX or Caliber isn't
geared toward the 3D that we do here in the US but you've got
that America-centric point of view. Also, lets face it,
the Kyosho support in the US is barely on radar, much less support
for a Caliber90.

I dont think this is materially different than the 14MZ, new
generation/direction for the mfgr to go in and they release the
top of the line first.

I believe this will Lepton EX will be fairly popular but it'll
really take off when they introduce the lower end version.
04-14-2006 Over year old.
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dkshema
rrProfessor
Location: Cedar Rapids, IA

Align's quality may suck, but there is no arguing with the fact that in spite of that lack of quality, they are selling helis like hotcakes. People have bent over backwards to get a T-Rex, and the booming third-party parts market has taken the Rex WAY beyond where Align could have itself. It's a testament to the success of the T-Rex (poor quality and all) that you can essentially go out and buy parts from third party suppliers, and build a T-Rex without having any Align parts in it.

The 600 should be built on the experience that Align has garnered from the development of the T-Rex. That, and the fact that the Szabos are part of that development project, should make the 600 a pretty solid performer.

The Lepton (man, that name has just GOT to change) looks to be a very good quality machine. It would be fun to have one. But at the moment, I'm still working on a way to scare up enough moola to bring a new Caliber 5 into my fleet.

Dave
04-14-2006 Over year old.
 
 
Havoc
Key Veteran
Location: Ky.

Actually a booming 3rd party parts market would make me run from the heli. If I can buy the lipton for $600 and not fiddle with 3rd party it starts sounding good.
04-14-2006 Over year old.
 
 
NIM
Veteran
Location: St Louis by six flags, Missouri

At least I know what size the 600 hundered is. What size is this helicopter?

T.J.
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04-14-2006 Over year old.
 
 
mrNoodles
rrProfessor
Location: Borlänge, Sweden

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Sorry but to me that Hirobo looks like its going to be as popular as the JR Parkmite.

Amusing, very amusing
04-14-2006 Over year old.
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RescueHelicopter
Veteran
Location: Portland Oregon

MMMmmmmm I love all these new helis comming out with so much bling baby!

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04-14-2006 Over year old.
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Garry-Boy
Key Veteran
Location: Moscow, Russia

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Amusing, very amusing

No at all....I may bet Lepton will become very popular!


Garry.
04-14-2006 Over year old.
 
 
GScott
Key Veteran
Location: Lewis Center, OH

Finless,

How is a battery going to cost $400? This is not a 30 or 50 size heli. It uses 425mm blades. That makes it smaller than a Logo and almost the same size as the EP8. They are looking at a 4s1p or dual 3s config for the batteries. That makes the batteries less than $100 each.
04-14-2006 Over year old.
 
 
IsaaX
Senior Heliman
Location: Cerritos, CA

I don't understand why the Lepton is still being compared to the Trex's cost considering the Lepton is a bigger heli. Everyone will have to wait and see what Hirobo will offer as far as batteries, motors and esc's and cost for them. Hopefully the cost factor won't be too bad. I myself can't wait to get my hands on one!

$400 batteries for this heli? I don't think so.
04-15-2006 Over year old.
 
 
Sceaduflyer
Senior Heliman
Location: Standish, ME

It says here, http://model.hirobo.co.jp/english/index.html , that there will be three versions of the kit available.

1. 0304-901 Lepton EX Full set
(Helicopter kit, motor, ESC, Lithium polymer battery, charger, included)
Battery = Hirobo original Lithium polymer battery
(4 cell 14.8V 3,200mAh)


2. 0304-902 Lepton EX battery charger less kit
(Helicopter kit, motor, ESC included)
Motor = Hirobo original outer rotor motor KV 890rpm/V (40A/S)
ESC = Hirobo original ESC with 4 cell BEC, governor included

3. 0304-903 Lepton EX kit (Helicopter kit only)

No prices tho as this is Hirobo Japan's website.

It wasn't me, it was my thumbs!
04-15-2006 Over year old.
 
 
dkshema
rrProfessor
Location: Cedar Rapids, IA

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I don't understand why the Lepton is still being compared to the Trex's cost considering the Lepton is a bigger heli.


Read the posts a little bit more diligently. The comparisons are being made to the soon-to-be announced Align 600 -- a 50 sized electric, which will be bigger than the Lepton. The rest of the T-Rex comparisons have had to do with the fact that people are buying the T-Rex hand-over-fist in SPITE of its quality problems.

Other comparisons are being made to the relative cost of batteries. A dual 2100/3S pack will easily set you back anywhere from $100 to $150 a pop.

As Finless said -- the T-Rex is popular not because of its extreme quality, but because you can get a small electric that goes anywhere, has inexpensive repair costs, and most importantly, a battery to fly the thing doesn't break the budget. For ANY electric to be successful in the market place, aside from initial purchase price, the one biggest roadblock to overcome is the cost of batteries.

There aren't that many ION X helis flying, not because its a piece of junk (MA Helis are extremely high quality construction), not because it is way overpriced (an ION X kit isn't all that much more than it's nitro brethren, and the cost includes a motor and speed control that will allow the heli to perform), but because you need to buy battery packs that easily cost $330 each, and it takes two just to fly. $660 for batteries for one flight is a bit steep, consider that you'll need two or more SETS to get decent flying in an afternoon out of the heli, the costs of batteries is prohibitive.

I'd like nothing more than the Lepton to be successful. Some will buy it, many will bypass it due to initial costs, the cost to add a motor and speed control, and the cost of multiple battery sets to keep it flying.

Dave
04-15-2006 Over year old.
 
 
angelob
Veteran
Location: Harvard, IL

Maybe I missed it, but I'm suprised that no one has compared it to Miniature's new 50 glow/electric coming out soon. Same price range but you get a bigger heli and the option of switching between glow and electric.
04-15-2006 Over year old.
 
 
Shortman
Key Veteran
Location: Clovis, California

I have to say this is one sweet looking helicopter.
04-15-2006 Over year old.
 
 
alanhsu
Key Veteran
Location: Vancouver, Canada

Don't think its going to work with that price tag.

1st of all.
How is it better than a Logo 3D? (logo 3D is actually cheaper!)
Logo has quality all over !
and it still have hard time competing with swift.

Price is as important, if not more important than quality.
If I can get 70% the heli with 50% the price, I'd go for the 70% heli. In this case, I can go for a better but cheaper heli (Logo 3D)?! No way will that price work.
04-16-2006 Over year old.
 
 
jperch
Senior Heliman
Location: Round Rock, Tx USA

This was posted on a similar thread on RCG.

http://model.hirobo.co.jp/english/index.html

Perhaps the price is not so bad after all?

Of course the site doesn't what version is what price. But if the $600 price tag includes a motor, esc, lipo, and charger. That is certainly not a bad deal at all IMHO.

Personally, I would probably opt for just the kit as I prefer to use my own choice of electronics and I already have a couple of chargers.

Joe
04-16-2006 Over year old.
 
 
buster1
Senior Heliman
Location: Manhattan, NY

Its obvious that electrics have arrived,

All I have to say is - based off MRC's comments - if I can build and set this thing up properly and just go fly and not have to tinker - the cost will be worth it.

Every 10-15 flights with the trex and I'm tinkering - we need a reliable heli. that doesn't need upgrades and constant tinkering, and this heli. looks like it might be a winer in that department,

I was looking for a 50, possibly the new MA50, but may just go the mid-size route and save some dough regarding batteries. If the quality is as good as it looks, Hirobo will have many takers.

Looking forward to it and would be my first Hirobo. - I can tell from the pictures - Hirobo is not messing around with the quality,
JH
04-16-2006 Over year old.
 
 
soundbwoy
Senior Heliman
Location: Fort Lauderdale

Jeff,
The prices posted at top of thread is that for the the bare stock kit or is it for the kit with motor esc and battery?

Fly Hard… Crash Harder… Have Fun!!
04-17-2006 Over year old.
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Garry-Boy
Key Veteran
Location: Moscow, Russia

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looks like it might be a winer in that department

Thats for sure

Garry.
04-17-2006 Over year old.
 
 
kookboy
Key Veteran
Location: Vancouver, BC -up north and Seattle, WA down south

The quality in the pictures looks very high. I'm impressed.

You get what you pay for.

I think the price tag is on par with the quality.

This is the perfect size for an affordable electric. A little bigger than the Trex, a little smaller than the Logo 10 which makes lipo's more friendly to the wallet.

I'm looking forward to seeing this in our market.

... But honey it was only $$$
04-17-2006 Over year old.
 
 
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