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e-E-Flite Blade CP CX 400-3D > Blade CP+/CX & Honeybee CP2 pics/videos
 
 
400HeliPilot
Senior Heliman
Location: Boca Raton, Fl - USA

Some pics & a video of my HB CP2






Flipping & inversion on my CP2
Click here to watch HoneyBee-CP2-flip-video-Divx-611
04-12-2006 Over year old.
 
 
heligrom
Senior Heliman
Location: Long Island NY, USA

dude thats a sim i believe???

T-rex 450S CF, Blade CX, Blade CP, A few planks
04-12-2006 Over year old.
 
 
Cameron
Veteran
Location: Jacksonville, Florida

That is a sim
04-12-2006 Over year old.
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400HeliPilot
Senior Heliman
Location: Boca Raton, Fl - USA

 Yes but who can say which sim, physics are spot on the real deal... And I thought I'd title this post so others might share their model pics & vids.

BTW, I'll be updating this real soon with pics, likely vid too, of the real BL/HH 180W H-Bee CP2 that I do fly inverted like that on the same controller used in the sim; seems even my uber PC came to its knees trying to sim the HoneyBee and encode 800x600 Divx... BSOD's, oh the humanity, ha.
04-13-2006 Over year old.
 
 
400HeliPilot
Senior Heliman
Location: Boca Raton, Fl - USA

Same canopy I digi-cam'd into the sim model. They fly the same.

3200k/v Walkera 180W 20x40mm BL with 10T mod 0.5 pinion on Castle Creations Thunderbird 9 ESC (BEC used). 6CH GWS RII RX, one inductor inline with BL ESC signal wire.

Stock tail on GWS 8A/15A peak ESC (BEC disabled) controlled by Telebee HH gyro. FT alum landing gear/skids.

Optic 6 TX mixes CH3 and CH4 together with throttle, gyro does the rest.

1800mah (8-10C) 3S Lipo, 127gram. Heavy, but 25min hovers in high wind. Runs fine on 2S (10C) BTW... I use 1000-1300mah for any 3D attempts. Collective servo is Esky, others are Walkera 9G (swash moves level, I got creative with the arms)







Still on original sym blades... haven't even scratched them in the two weeks I've had it. I'm only good enough to invert/flip at a park... waiting on my CNC dual tail motor holder.
04-14-2006 Over year old.
 
 
oopsididitagain
Veteran
Location: USA

what sim is that?........

im using cleaview and damn the blade cp in there can hardly be flown or its too tiny to be seen......*shrugs*
04-14-2006 Over year old.
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400HeliPilot
Senior Heliman
Location: Boca Raton, Fl - USA

That is the $30 Clearview 4.35 in the 800x600 Divx video above.

I just imported some G3 (you can use any Reflex XTR/Aerofly or anything panoramic) scenery (16MB tiles when asked during the import) from this site:
http://rcheliace.com/G3%20Photo%20fields.htm
And I used the first one in the video.

I simply put the Honeybee canopy over the Blade's yellow one, and set the cyclic %'s to 18 each (under easy model setup, default of 40 is unrealistic). I can post canopy file if anyone wants it.

You can make it easier (or harder) to fly by making changing the tail.

Under advanced model setup, you scroll through the text lines and fine this one:

rudSlopPoint 0.2

Change 0.2 to 1.0E-5 to add a Telebee HH Gyro (like my pics above)
Change 0.2 to 0.1 to make the tail wander more (like a poorly setup BCP)

Under weather setup, make the wind 0.25m/s or 0.3m/s to push your Blade around abit (this setting holds for the current scenery). Hold off on this until you can hover/fly well.

Now you can make the model as big as your screen... under Settings pick Zoom & set it to "Model Setup". Also under Settings pick Advanced Model Setup again and scroll to the very end, you'll see these lines:

endZoomDistance 300.0
fieldOfView 38.0
fieldOfViewFar 10.0
fieldOfViewNear 39.0

Fullscreen Clearview...
Change the 38.0 to about 3.0
Change the 10.0 to about 20.0
Change the 39.0 to about 6.0
Now your model is huge, you can see every detail... raise the numbers (except the ViewFar) to make it smaller.

These changes stick to the model. So you could make an "Easy" and a "Hard" BladeCP just my unzipping the model archive to different directory names and changing each one. The weather change is per scene.

Hope this helps!
04-14-2006 Over year old.
 
 
Cybinary
Senior Heliman
Location: The Colony, TX

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im using cleaview and damn the blade cp in there can hardly be flown or its too tiny to be seen......*shrugs*


I understand what your saying Oops, but that is the Blade CP. It is VERY light and bounces around a lot! Everyone has said that if you can master the CP then everything should be easy!!

That is why the SIM is so important. The changes that 400 has listed above will help with making the sim a little more realistic but for the most part that is what you will have to deal with once you put the real bird in the air. I know its frustrating but the thrill of hovering for real the first time will make it worth it

"Gravity is a Harsh Mistress!"
Lepton EX Fully BLINGed
04-14-2006 Over year old.
 
 
oopsididitagain
Veteran
Location: USA

wow thanks for the pointers 400helipilot...

what else can i do to really make full use of clearview stuff as far as training myself to fly the blade cp?.....i downloaded the model from ken's model site
04-14-2006 Over year old.
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400HeliPilot
Senior Heliman
Location: Boca Raton, Fl - USA

Well Clearview (new 4.36, DLing now) is great because it's good & keeps your sim cost low, because real heli costs are typically a bit hard on beginners. But attention to heli detail/setup can really lower the costs simply because you'll crash much less.

Not sure what you use as a controller. I'd suggest the closest thing to the E-sky TX just to be a little more accurate.

http://www.helidirect.com/product_i...roducts_id=890]
This is $30 (plus cheap/quick shipping). Says USB interface, pic shows RS232 or USB. Any case, it looks like a stripped E-sky TX so it'll feel just like the Blade TX. It doesn't list any sim other than FMS, but I think Windows will see it as a four axis joystck so you can use in any sim; I don't see an Idle Up switch (advanced flying), not a real big deal. Don't need AA's for this one.

www.milehighwings.com has a $45 interface for the Blade/Bee CCPM 6CH TX

I use my real computer TX (Optic 6) on a $10 cable.

Whatever you do, treat the sim "heli" as if crashes cost you money, if you don't, it's almost worthless as a sim & becomes a game. And expect the real deal to be different. Real vs fake rotorblades screaming is always a big diff, it'll make you nervous. Start slow, check your heli setup/trim often (be exact, it really pays off not to just throttle it up), & practice on sim & real deal. Everyone crashes. But when the nervousness starts to fade & the fun factor kicks in, eh, get out your checkbook, all those blinky ads on this site start looking really good,
04-14-2006 Over year old.
 
 
oopsididitagain
Veteran
Location: USA

how and where did u learn how to set up the sim properly? i mean did u read somewhere or u did a trial and error thing?

lol at the moment im using a saitek gamepad..... those cables are way too expensive im waiting on a serial port one.....

oh care to post a picture of your $10 and radio man
04-15-2006 Over year old.
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400HeliPilot
Senior Heliman
Location: Boca Raton, Fl - USA

I learned of the Clearview sim & its Blade CP model from Cybinary, tho it has been in development for awhile. I setup the sim by trial & error (been doing PC stuff since it came out, my 1.8Ghz A64 Clawhammer CPU is humming at 3.0Ghz). The "plane parameters" are documented, yet I haven't found the heli ones explained, just toying with them so far, with good result thus far. I used to write PC software, Clearview is a bargain for the price, for those serious about flying helis/planes. FMS is a good effort but lacks realism for me.

I just put Clearview v4.36 on tonight, very nice. Heli flight model is more refined, slick. Imports the FMS models too.

Here's the Hitec computer TX I use ($135 shipped), I have helis/planes/gliders, it does them all well. You can spend more, but this does it for me. (My Dad uses the same one, we connect with a buddy cable, & I take heli control if he's about to crash, not that I'm perfect!)

The $10 serial cable for Futaba/Hitec interface.

I think the $30 Esky trainer thing is nice, you might be able to beat that price on a similar/same thing on Ebay. Even the gamepad (some have dual sticks) can teach basic controls & be helpful instead of plowing through it with real rotor blades churning.
04-15-2006 Over year old.
 
 
oopsididitagain
Veteran
Location: USA

do u know in the clearview sim , there is a model called spirit or the microheli H2 , what real model does those simulate? i like to fly those.
04-15-2006 Over year old.
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400HeliPilot
Senior Heliman
Location: Boca Raton, Fl - USA

I don't really see the Spirit (the one from Robbe?) in my heli list, the micro electric H2 I think is the MS Hornet II. A very light & aerobatic heli.
04-15-2006 Over year old.
 
 
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