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e-E-Flite Blade CP CX 400-3D > Futaba 9c question
 
 
EKIM
Veteran
Location: Long Island New York

i set up my blade to fly with the futaba 9c super and it flys fine except that my servos only have about 1/4 of their throw. at full right stick i get minimal movement out of the heli. ive tried maxing out the endpoints and i have played with the exp menus with little success. anyone else have this problem? or know how i can fix it? i've tried everything i can think of. oh and its not the heli i just swapped the crystal out today. any thoughts?
03-31-2006 Over year old.
 
 
lryansl
Senior Heliman
Location: Yuma, Arizona

did you check your swash afr?
03-31-2006 Over year old.
 
 
EKIM
Veteran
Location: Long Island New York

do you know what they should be set at? or a ball park figure? right now i have the aileron at-50% elevator at + 58% and pitch at +64% i am using someone elses settings from this forum so maybe they know. i think they are wingwests settings
03-31-2006 Over year old.
 
 
stealth916
Veteran
Location: Rocklin, CA

Here are my relevant settings.

FUTABA 9C
USING SWASH TYPE SR-3

SWASH AFR SETTINGS:
AIL +65
ELE -65
PIT -48

End points are all 100 - SUB TRIMS @ ZERO
ELE, THRO, and PIT channels are reversed
03-31-2006 Over year old.
 
 
Gary Hoorn
Key Veteran
Location: Annapolis Maryland USA

ekim4114,
stealth916 is giving you good advice. All end points should be set to 100%. Amount of servo movement and direction are set in the Swash Menu.
Gary
03-31-2006 Over year old.
 
 
EKIM
Veteran
Location: Long Island New York

even the throttle endpoint 100? ok well i set it up they way you have it and will test fly it as soon as i fix it. thanks
03-31-2006 Over year old.
 
 
EKIM
Veteran
Location: Long Island New York

nope i still don't get full servo throw. this is Exactly how mine is set up

<=======================>
<= BLADE CP settings for 9C =>
<=======================>


//---------------------------------/
// Go to PARAMETER /
//--------------------------------/

Type>HELI (SR-3)
MODUL>PPM
ATL>ON

//---------------------------------/
// Go to SWASH AFR /
//------------------------------- /

RATE-AIL> -50%
ELE> +58%
PIT> +64%

//---------------------------------/
// Go to END POINTS /
//------------------------------- /

Change the throttle to 43/100
-To do this select throttle and then use the left stick to toggle to the left side to make it 43

//---------------------------------/
// Go to REVERSE /
//--------------------------------/

Reverse 1:AIL
Reverse 3:THR

//---------------------------------/
// Go to TH-CV/NOR /
//--------------------------------/

POINT 1> 0.0%
2> 25.0%
3> 50.0%
4> 75.0%
5> 100.0%

//---------------------------------/
// Go to PI-CV/NOR /
//--------------------------------/

POINT 1> 46.0%
2> 52.5%
3> 57.5%
4> 63.5%
5> 75.0%

//---------------------------------/
// Go to REVO./NOR /
//--------------------------------/

MIX>ON
POINT 1> -20%
2> -10%
3> 0%
4> +10%
5> +20%

//---------------------------------/
// Go to THR-CUT /
//--------------------------------/

-For this you can choose the switch that you want to use throttle cut
-I prefer the H switch becuase it is the easiest to reach when I am flying or when I need to use it

MIX>OFF
RATE> 0%
THR> 5%
SW> H
POSI> DOWN

<============================================================================================================>


-Now go to [ADVANCE(HELI)] menu by pressing Mode/Page button


//---------------------------------/
// Go to THR-CURVE /
//--------------------------------/

-Go up to >NORM(NORM) by using the up and down arrows
-Then Scroll with Dial to >IDL1(NORM)
-Use arrows and go down to MIX>INH and switch it to MIX>OFF using dial
-Change points to what follows:
MIX>OFF
POINT 1> 100%
2> 75%
3> 50%
4> 75%
5> 100%


//---------------------------------/
// Go to PIT-CURVE /
//--------------------------------/

-Go up to >NORM(NORM) by using the up and down arrows
-Then Scroll with Dial to >IDL1(NORM)
-Change points to what follows:
POINT 1> 22%
> 39.0%
> 57.5%
> 67.5%
> 78.5%

//---------------------------------/
// Go to HOV-THR /
//--------------------------------/

Turn MIX>ON
Rate> 0% (- 70%)
VR> +VrC
MODE> NORM
To get to - 70% use the VR(C) Knob on the TX

//--------------------------------/
// Go to HOV-PIT /
//--------------------------------/

Turn MIX>ON
Rate> 0% (+ 15%)
VR> +VrA
MODE> NORM
To get to +15% use the VR(A) Knob on the TX

//---------------------------------/
// Go to THR-HOLD /
//--------------------------------/

[THR-HOLD]
MIX> OFF
POSI> 0%

[RUD-OFST]
MIX> INH
OFFSET> 0%

<============================================================================================================>
-Idle Up 1 switch is Switch G which is Default
-These settings have only been used twice in flight but they seem to work fine
-You can adjust to your needs and likes
-******MAKE SURE THAT ALL OF THE SETTINGS ARE RIGHT BEFORE FLIGHT IS ATTEMPTED!!!!!!!!********


//---------------------------------/
// Credits /
//--------------------------------/

-If you need any help with these settings PM on Runryder
-My name is WingsWest328
-If further help is needed you can catch me on AIM: WingsWest328
-Hope these settings work for you, and have fun flying

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03-31-2006 Over year old.
 
 
stealth916
Veteran
Location: Rocklin, CA

For the love of god - crank up your AIL in SWASH AFR some more!!!

50% AIL is NOT going to do it.
03-31-2006 Over year old.
 
 
EKIM
Veteran
Location: Long Island New York

I changed that part to the way you reccommended it before
03-31-2006 Over year old.
 
 
Gary Hoorn
Key Veteran
Location: Annapolis Maryland USA

On my Futaba I have end points set to 100% on cyclic. My swash ratios are at 80% for aileron and elevator. Pitch percentage should be whatever gives you the pitch range you desire.
Gary
03-31-2006 Over year old.
 
 
lwndrt
Heliman
Location: Snohomish, WA

ooops
05-09-2006 Over year old.
 
 
thematrixz
Heliman
Location: MA, USA

Sorry I missed this discussion before, I just recently got a Blade CP, it that true that all I need is a single conversion RX Xtal to use my 9CP?
05-12-2006 Over year old.
 
 
lryansl
Senior Heliman
Location: Yuma, Arizona

or just get a synth module for your TX
05-13-2006 Over year old.
 
 
thematrixz
Heliman
Location: MA, USA

I have a synth module for the TX, but for the RX, I just want to confirm that all I need is a Futaba single conversion crystal. Or does the stock Blade CP crystal will work?
05-13-2006 Over year old.
 
 
lryansl
Senior Heliman
Location: Yuma, Arizona

the stock crystal will work if your tx has a synth module thats what im using with mine.
05-13-2006 Over year old.
 
 
thematrixz
Heliman
Location: MA, USA

Great, thanks for the tip. Now I need to find a stock RX xtal then.

Tan
05-13-2006 Over year old.
 
 
turboomni
Elite Veteran
Location: 63 Rambler Down By The Dumpster

Why do it in the first place? I have an Airtronics RD8000 that I set up with the blade cp and it wasn't much better than the stock TX. Sure a few little things but over all no biggie.
Did you see "Unreal Blade CP Video" ? Stock, Stock, Stock!
I tried my computer radio and could see that the flexability of the radio could compensate for a lousey setup with a few button pushes if your're lucky. The stock TX is fine if you know how to set up the heli.
This thing is fine as is from the box if setup correctly,,now practice. Money won't make you better ,,just less rich!!!

Setup is everything, All my heli's can fly better than I can pilot them
05-13-2006 Over year old.
 
 
thematrixz
Heliman
Location: MA, USA

In my case, I bought a used Blade withouth TX, so it's easier for me to find a RX crystal than a Blade TX.
05-13-2006 Over year old.
 
 
turboomni
Elite Veteran
Location: 63 Rambler Down By The Dumpster

Gotcha

Setup is everything, All my heli's can fly better than I can pilot them
05-13-2006 Over year old.
 
 
tman52804
Senior Heliman
Location: Davenport, IA

9c

I'm going to try and use my 9C with my honeybee cp2. I've copied the above settings from the long post by ekim4114, however, it was mentioned to turn up ail on swash afr to more then 50%. Well I'm confused, would that be like -80% or from -50% to a positive number.
05-13-2006 Over year old.
 
 
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