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e-E-Flite Blade CP CX 400-3D > Spektrum DX6 Radio Setup for Blade CP
 
 
JB642
Senior Heliman
Location: Waterford, MI - USA

A few people have asked about this so I thought I would start a thread - Please let me know what you think. If you see any errors, let me know so I can correct them!

My Blade has the Direct Drive tail mod and of course the Receiver "Hack" for the DX6. These setting also worked well when my Blade was "stock".

Remember, these are my settings - use them as your guide for setting up your DX6. I've made many references to the DX6 manual for your use. Here is a link to download the manual -

http://www.horizonhobby.com/ProdInf.../DX6_Maunal.pdf

Thanks Horizon for posting it!

Here you go -

See page 9 in manual to get into Helicopter mode....the rest of the helicopter info starts on page 57...

Do all the Transmitter setup with your helicopter unpowered!!!

My setting should get the CCPM working for you and get you in the ballpark for the rest! After programming the Transmitter, make sure both your motors are unplugged from the 4 in 1 before powering up your heli to check the servos and swash plate movements!!!! To fine tune the servos use sub trim mode (pg 75).

System mode settings (Page 64 diagram / pg 66-71 specifics)

Hold both programming switches up and then turn on radio to get into System mode.
Use Scroll to get thru menu (Left switch - up) There are 6 items you can see here -
Here are my mode settings as you "scroll" thru -

1 TYP - HE AC for airplane / HE for helis (page 66)
2 RST Used to reset your radio (page 67)
3 D/R SW - E Sets Dual rate switch location (Your choice page 68)
4 GER - F Default setting in radio - (page 69)
5 MDL - 1 Select which model you want - up to 10 (page 70)
6 HE1 - 1 3 letter name you can change (page 71)

Once you have the system settings done, shut off your radio to get out of this mode.

Function mode settings menu (Page 65 diagram / pg 72-91 specifics)

Turn Radio on first - Once on, push both programming switches up and release to get into the Function mode.

This programming mode will open on whatever page you were last on, so use "scroll" (Left switch - up) to get to whatever function you want to change (see page 65 for diagram)

Once in a specific menu, use "channel" (Left switch - down) to move thru that menu.
Here are my settings (In the order shown in the manual) for each function for my Blade CP:

Servo Reversing (page 72)
THR: NORM AIL: REV ELE: REV RUD: REV GER: NORM PIT: NORM
Rudder may be Norm or Rev based on your setup - I have a Direct Drive tail on mine - change it if your heli goes in the wrong direction with tail input.

Dual Rate (page 73)
Use whatever switch you set in the system mode setup for your dual rate. Toggle that switch and you will see the AI_ and EL_ change from O to 1. With my setup, I toggle the "Elevator D/R" switch on the upper left front corner of the Transmitter to set the four values.
AIO: 70 ELO: 70
AI1: 100 EL1: 100

Exponential (page 74) Use switch as above for O and 1
AIO: 25 ELO: 25
AI1: 15 EL1: 15

Sub Trim (page 75)
My settings - yours will be different to get your servo arms to 90 degrees. Leave at zero for now and adjust later when setting up the actual helicopter.
AIL: +10 ELE: -17 RUD: 0 GER: 0 PIT: +13 THR: 0

Travel Adjustment (page 76)
Leave everything at 100; The CCPM function allows you to control servo throw for setting Pitch, aieleron and elevator maximum movement.

The " + / - " settings are very important and made my swash do some
weird things when I was trying to figure them out!

AIL: -100 ELE: -100 RUD: -100
GER: +100 PIT: -100 THR: -100

Throttle Hold (page 77)
HLD: 0

Pitch curve normal (page 78)
PLN: 38 P2N: 50 PHN: 100 (gives me about -3 to +10 degrees pitch)

Pitch curve stunt (page 78)
PLS: 0 P2S: 50 PHS: 100 (gives me -/+ 10 degrees pitch)

Pitch curve hold (page 78)

PLH: 38 P2H: 50 PHH: 100

Throttle curve normal (page 80) (T2N and T2S are great places to change your head speed)
TLN: 0 T2N: 55 THN: 100

Throttle curve stunt (page 80)
TLS: 100 T2S: 60 THS: You can not set a THS setting. The high end point in THS is whatever you set in THN.

Revolution mixing (page 82) I haven't used this mode
RVU: 0 RVD:0

Programmable mixing (page 83-85) I don't use it
A11: 0 (The numbers "11" are displayed based on what is set on Ach screen!)
A11 OFFSET: 0
Ach: 11
ASW: ON

CCPM mixing (page 88) CP2=Aileron CP3=Elevator CP6=Pitch
CCP: ON CP2: 60 CP3: 60 CP6: 30
Use these to adjust the amount of movement of the swash - Mine are set with these numbers to allow the swash to move without hitting the top or bottom when changing pitch or binding on the shaft with full aieleron and elevator. If your Blade is set up well, CP2 and CP3 should be the same number!

When working on this setup, make sure both your motors are unplugged from the 4 in 1!!!! When you're happy with the swash plate movements, move on to "powering up" the motors - Make sure to power up slowly and check that your tail is working correctly!! You may need to change the REV / NORM setting for the RUD (servo reversing page 72).

I hope this helps with your Spektrum DX6 and Blade CP!! (I double checked my settings and I didn't see any typos, hopefully.) Let me know if you need any more info! Great Flying!!!

JB
03-30-2006 Over year old.
 
 
randyrtx
Heliman
Location: Austin, TX USA

Awesome JB, thanks for posting this!

RR
03-30-2006 Over year old.
 
 
Hoverup
Elite Veteran
Location: Gulf Coast

Lots of effort here, thanks for sharing it.

Cheers - Boyd
AMA80393
Major USAF
Retired
03-30-2006 Over year old.
 
 
JB642
Senior Heliman
Location: Waterford, MI - USA

Thanks Randy and Hoverup - I wanted to give something back for all the help I've gotten from all of you on the forum - Hope it helps alot!
03-30-2006 Over year old.
 
 
Gary Hoorn
Key Veteran
Location: Annapolis Maryland USA

JB,
Good work here. My LHS has sold quite a few of these radios and some questions have come up. I can now refer them to your article. I reset a Heli and followed your instructions to check as you asked. Only thing I would note is:

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Throttle curve stunt (page 80)
TLS: 100 T2S: 60 there is no THS - its always at 100


The high end point in THS is whatever you set in THN. As an example on a different electric Heli with a governor mode speed control I set THN at 80% after programming the ESC. TLS and T2S are then set to 80%. This gives a flat throttle curve of 80% in Stunt Mode for the governor. I start the spoolup in Normal and Switch to Stunt Mode before lifting off. This lets the governor on the ESC do its job.

I am not being critical and your article is perfect for the Blade or any other Heli that can use 100% throttle. Just thought I would add for those who might want to use governor mode or rein in the motor a bit

Gary
03-31-2006 Over year old.
 
 
JB642
Senior Heliman
Location: Waterford, MI - USA

Gary -

Thanks for checking the settings out - I appreciate your input and I have edited the info!! I use the same type setting on my MX400 with CC Phx 35 in high gov mode. I'm switching my BCP to brushless next week (waiting for the rest of the parts - Icon belted tail going on also) and will be using a CC Phx 10 with a Himax 2015. Let me know if you have any other reco's such as for revo and/or programmable mixing settings and I'll edit the main article. How did your Blade fly with the settings?

JB
03-31-2006 Over year old.
 
 
Gary Hoorn
Key Veteran
Location: Annapolis Maryland USA

JB,
Just got back from the park down the street. I used all of your settings and they were very close. The differences I can only attribute to an accumulation of tolerances both in the radio and the heli and fall into what I call normal tweaking of a bird. I raised T2S to 75% after the first flight as I wanted to keep the headspeed high during crossover to negative pitch.

Thank you for the good work you have done for the Blade Community. Horizon owes you These little Birds tend to be flown in yards, streets and parks rather than at club flying fields. The DX is a perfect radio for this type of flying as there are no worries about electrical noise, range and frequency conflicts!
Gary
03-31-2006 Over year old.
 
 
10karer
Heliman
Location: Burleson, TX - USA

This is aggravating I spent a lot of time trying to set up my DX6 and have run into 1 problem I cannot solve. When I change the mode switch to stunt mode the elevator servo moves down and gives forward cyclic with no trim the heli starts to move forward can any one help?

Why Jonny Ringo you look as if someone just walked over your grave.
04-19-2006 Over year old.
 
 
BikeNBoatN
Veteran
Location: Santa Ana, CA USA

Do you have the trims set the same in Normal vs Stunt mode? Your elevator may have more down trim in Stunt mode than it does in Normal.

Brent.

Brent
Slow and Smooth 2-D Scale Flyer
AMA #35431
04-19-2006 Over year old.
 
 
10karer
Heliman
Location: Burleson, TX - USA

Thanks I reset the radio last night and it cleared up. I am new to computer radios I didn't know that the trims are diffrent in each mode. thanks for the tip I'll keep a watch on the trim setings.

Why Jonny Ringo you look as if someone just walked over your grave.
04-19-2006 Over year old.
 
 
Micro-Maniac
Elite Veteran
Location: Pasco,Washington Formerly: Captain Chaos

My setup is not fancy at all and I like it...

Heli:
9t/10t pinion, Esky head, HS-55 servos, Carbon symetricals, TP1320S3.

Radio:
System Mode:
TYP = HE
D/R SW = .A
GER = E

Function Mode:
Reversing_
THR = NORM
AIL = NORM (REV for S75 servos)
ELE = NORM (REV for S75 servos)
RUD = REV
GER = NORM
PIT = REV (NORM for S75 servos)

Dual Rates_
AI0 = 100%
AI1 = 100%
EL0 = 100%
EL1 = 100%

Exponential_
AI0 = 30%
AI1 = 30%
EL0 = 30%
EL1 = 30%

Sub-Trim_ (different for everyone)
THR = 0
AIL = 0
ELE = 0
RUD = 0
GER = 0
PIT = 0

Travel Adjustment_
THR = +/-100%
AIL = +/-100%
ELE = +/-100%
RUD = +/-100%
GER = +/-100%
PIT = +/-100%

Throttle-Hold_
HLD = 0%

Pitch Curves_
PLN = 25%
P2N = 50%
PHN = 100%

PLS = 0%
P2S = 50%
PHS = 100%

PLH = 0%
P2H = 50%
PHH = 100%

Throttle Curves_
TLN = 0%
T2N = 50%
THN = 100%

TLS = 100%
T2S = 100%

Revolution Mixing_
RVU = 0%
RVD = 0%

Programmable Mixing_
ASW = ON
A11 = 0%
OFFSET = 0
Ach = 11

CCPM Swashplate Mixing_ (might be higher values with S75 servos)
CCP = ON
CP2 = +60%
CP3 = +60%
CP6 = +30%

Super simple and flies great.
04-21-2006 Over year old.
 
 
desertman
Heliman
Location: San Diego

Big problem here, I have the exact same setup as above EXCEPt evryting is working in reverse. Radio says left, swash plate goes right. Same with the elevator. If I reverse it in the setup. It really gets wierd. The swash will tilt to the 4:00 or 8:00 position. If I could make the servos turn in the exact opposite direction as they are moving now it would be prefect.
Forgot to mention I am using HS55 servos. I hope I dont have to get in there and mod all of them.

Please help

ted
09-08-2006 Over year old.
 
 
Micro-Maniac
Elite Veteran
Location: Pasco,Washington Formerly: Captain Chaos

Try swapping the aileron and pitch servos at the receiver and see if that corrects it.

(BTW - I just edited the normal mode pitch curve for easier landings - You might want to try it too (PLN=25%))
09-08-2006 Over year old.
 
 
BikeNBoatN
Veteran
Location: Santa Ana, CA USA

Go to the swash menu. To change direction of either Aileron (CP2), Elevator (CP3), or Collective (CP6), you need to change the sign of whatever the value is. Whatever you have in the Aileron channel, keep the value the same but change the sign (ie. if you have +60, change it to -60). Do the same for Elevator channel, and Collective, if required.

Don't mess with servo reversing. Only use servo reversing if, say, both aileron servos are moving in the same direction when you move the aileron stick. Then you would change direction of one servo, so that both servos are moving in opposite directions (one arm goes down while the other arm goes up). Then change the swash menu to get them moving in the proper direction.

Brent
Slow and Smooth 2-D Scale Flyer
AMA #35431
09-08-2006 Over year old.
 
 
Micro-Maniac
Elite Veteran
Location: Pasco,Washington Formerly: Captain Chaos

He has basically the same setup as me so if everything is plugged into the receiver correctly and the radio programmed like mine then it should work.
09-08-2006 Over year old.
 
 
Micro-Maniac
Elite Veteran
Location: Pasco,Washington Formerly: Captain Chaos

Oops sorry - That programming was with S75 servos - To fix it for HS-55 servos you need to do your reversing like this..

THR = NORM
AIL = NORM
ELE = NORM
RUD = REV
GER = NORM
PIT = REV
09-08-2006 Over year old.
 
 
robone
Heliman
Location: Tulsa Ok U.S.A.

AWESOME!!! this is all the info that i have needed for some time now!
09-08-2006 Over year old.
 
 
Micro-Maniac
Elite Veteran
Location: Pasco,Washington Formerly: Captain Chaos

I just re-edited my DX6 setup with a lot more detail.
09-08-2006 Over year old.
 
 
desertman
Heliman
Location: San Diego

Thanks BikeNBoatN, that was exactly what I needed to do. Now everything is moving in the right direction. Moving the values into the negative on the swash menu was the ticket.

Thanks again.

Ted
09-08-2006 Over year old.
 
 
Micro-Maniac
Elite Veteran
Location: Pasco,Washington Formerly: Captain Chaos

Oh yeah - I didn't think to reverse the swash mix as I'm used to my previous radio that didn't have that feature so swapping servo channels is the remedy I'm used to - Theres more than one way to skin a cat anyways.
09-08-2006 Over year old.
 
 
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