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e-Century Hummingbird - Swift > 3 D Pro main gear pitch ?
 
 
tomuchfun
Heliman
Location: Cardington ,Ohio,

Does any one know for sure if the main gear is 48 pitch ?

I was told some of the china and foriegn stuff is metric ??
Thanks Ron
03-23-2006 Over year old.
 
 
JB642
Senior Heliman
Location: Waterford, MI - USA

Hummingbird 3D pro main gear pitch = .5 Modulus

I've been trying to find that answer also for the last two days - I'm doing a motor change (different kV rating on new motor) and needed to change the motor pinion size to get the correct head speed.

I emailed Century tech support through their web site and called (408.451.1155) today and no one knew the main gear pitch answer. I was asked for my phone number (by Hector) and he said someone would call me back with the answer. That was 3 hours ago. After a long web search I found this forum post on rcgroups-

http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/arch...p/t-347891.html


specifically -

Hoverup
Mar 17, 2005, 06:06 PM
48p and 0.5 mdulus are not the same. The Pro has 0.5 modulus gears.


I beleive the gear has 140 teeth also. Sure would be nice if this info was in the bulid manual, or at least known by "Tech support"!!
03-28-2006 Over year old.
 
 
cudaboy_71
Key Veteran
Location: sacramento, ca, u.s.

i'd measure if i was near a heli. but, 'module' and 'pitch' are not some arbitrary values assigned by a standards board. you can actually measure them for yourself.

z = number of teeth in gear
Mn = normal module
PD = pitch diameter of gear (diameter in mm of the gear if the teeth were all stripped off)
OD = outside diameter of gear (diameter in mm including the teeth)

Formula

Normal Module:
Mn= PD/z

so, if you measure the PD to be 70mm and there are 140teeth, then the gear has a module of 70/140=.5

similarly, pitch is the 'english' measurement system. pitch is defined as the number of teeth a 1" wheel would have. so, 48P is a 1" diameter* gear with 48 teeth.

so, 48P is roughly (25.4mm*Pi)/48=1.66 module** (25.4mm = 1 inch)

*pitch is vastly more complex to calculate because it is calculated off of the "pitch circle" rather than the inner or outer diameter as 'module' measurement does. i won't go into the gory details of pitch circle---but, it involves a lot of trig...suffice to say, if you do calculate the pitch circle, you can find the pitch by dividing the pitch circle circumference by the number of teeth....or (D*Pi)/Teeth (where D is the pitch circle diameter of the gear)

**in the example above, the module would actually be less than 1.66 as the pitch circle would be slightly larger than the 1" since the module calculation uses the ID of the gear.

[edit] fixed a formula error. sorry

if it ain't broke…break it.
03-28-2006 Over year old.
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tomuchfun
Heliman
Location: Cardington ,Ohio,

re3

Still tinkering !!
I bought a motor gear combo, just to get a 8 tooth off it ..It was a eflight 370 with 0.5 mod . It was 10 bucks.. ouch .My boy got a tribute so he can have a extra motor , Well afer changeing it out and trying it does seem to be a better fit .The teeth are ever so slightly smaller the the 48..

The 48 worked but was not as smooth as the 05 .
Motor still running about 20 degrees cooler and plenty of power for one learning basic maneuvers . also the bonus of extended run time .

Have a good one ...I have to put my rc stuff down for a while as get get ready for spring projects !
rt
03-28-2006 Over year old.
 
 
leslie
Key Veteran
Location: Hollis, NH - USA

Hi All,

I've had trouble finding .5 mod gears and have used 48 mod for a while. They are a little rougher at first. I use a touch of bees wax on the main to help. I've found things smooth right back out.

Cheers,
Leslie

Protecting those who protect us
03-28-2006 Over year old.
 
 
JB642
Senior Heliman
Location: Waterford, MI - USA

Leslie -

Were they plastic or metal pinions that you used? Thanks

JB
03-29-2006 Over year old.
 
 
leslie
Key Veteran
Location: Hollis, NH - USA

Hi JB642,

I'm not near my birds at the moment. But I beleive I used HPI racing pinions on my 3dpro which is plastic.

After a season of flying the main gear/motor pinion is smooth a butter.

hope this helps!

Cheers,
Leslie

Protecting those who protect us
03-29-2006 Over year old.
 
 
JB642
Senior Heliman
Location: Waterford, MI - USA

Thanks Leslie - I've got a bunch of HPI plastic pinions from my 1/10 scale onroad days (Helis sure are much more challenging though!) I'll give them a try. I think the steel 48 tooth pinions would beat up the plastic main gear though.

JB
03-29-2006 Over year old.
 
 
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