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e-Century Hummingbird - Swift > JR 8103 or similar setup for 3d Pro
 
 
Teufel-Hundin
Heliman
Location: Saint Petersburg FL

Hummingbird 3d Pro: Anyone have a good complete starting setup for the JR 8103 or similar. Thanks for any help.
03-11-2006 Over year old.
 
 
Teufel-Hundin
Heliman
Location: Saint Petersburg FL

No one uses a JR with their 3D Pro.
03-13-2006 Over year old.
 
 
martinic
Veteran
Location: NB, Canada

I do, but I don't think my setup would be much use to you - mine's not flying all that well at the moment (but maybe it's me) and I'm still getting it set up. I'm using a governor for headspeed (set at 2400 RPM in all flight modes) and linear pitch curves (3D curves). I'm using 30% expo on aileron and elevator. What else would you like to know?
03-14-2006 Over year old.
 
 
cudaboy_71
Key Veteran
Location: sacramento, ca, u.s.

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No one uses a JR with their 3D Pro.


what an odd thing to say

i'd offer you my 9303 settings. but, they're probably so far off of what an 8103 would be, they'd be as useless to you as any others.

if it ain't broke…break it.
03-14-2006 Over year old.
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garage_flyer
Key Veteran
Location: Elk Grove, CA (Sacramento area) U.S.

I thought Leslie uses a JR
03-14-2006 Over year old.
 
 
Teufel-Hundin
Heliman
Location: Saint Petersburg FL

That was due to no responses should have ended with a question mark. Looking for setpoints on all settings. thanks.
03-14-2006 Over year old.
 
 
albatross
Senior Heliman
Location: Texas, Houston area

I fly my Pro with a 10x.

I don't know what numbers you would be looking for except throttle curve? Most people run their curve at 100% except for maybe the first point around 80% for a softer start.

You can't really set up a heli this way. You would need to have servos that were EXACTLY the same, the same distance out on the servo arm, the same length from the ball on the swash to the servo arm, all the links on the head EXACTLY the same...see where this is not really likely to happen?

If someone had a Pro with all of the same parts i.e. motor, speed controler, receiver etc., etc. The numbers you seem to be asking for would only get you in the ballpark and would not be an ideal setup.

What exactly are you having a problem with?
03-14-2006 Over year old.
 
 
martinic
Veteran
Location: NB, Canada

Albatross is right about the ATV, swash mix and gryo values. These are setup specific.

As for curves, those aren't radio specific. For what it's worth:

D/R & EXP AIL POS-0: D/R 90%, EXP + 35%. Pos-1: D/R 100%, EXP LIN.
D/R & EXP ELEV POS-0: D/R 90%, EXP + 35%. Pos-1: D/R 100%, EXP LIN.
D/R & EXP RUDD POS-0: D/R 100%, EXP LIN. Pos-1: D/R 100%, EXP LIN.
D/R & EXP AUTO ST1:INH, ST2:INH, HLD:INH.
GYRO SENS: RUDD D/R, Rate: 0:77%, 1:25% (Note: Setup Specific)
ATS. MIX, REV.Mix - All 0% (Disabled for HH gyro, GY401)
Inverted: INH (Learn to fly inverted the right way!)
PIT. CURVE: NORM: 20.0%, 33.0%, 45.0%, 70.0%, 100.0%. EXP ON (-3 pitch to +10 pitch for hover - this is a beginner norm mode pitch curve)
PIT. CURVE: ST-1: 0.0%, INH, 50.0%, INH, 100.0%. EXP ON (Linear pitch curve)
PIT. CURVE: ST-2: 0.0%, INH, 50.0%, INH, 100.0%. EXP ON
PIT. CURVE: HOLD: 0.0%, INH, 50.0%, INH, 100.0%. EXP ON
THRO CURV: NORM: 0.0%, 73%, 73%, 73%, 73% (Governor curve, 2400 RPM)
THRO CURV: ST-1: 75%, 75%, 75%, 75%, 75% (Slightly higher HS in Stunt modes)
THRO CURV: ST-2: 75%, 75%, 75%, 75%, 75%
THRO Hold: ACT, HOLD Pos 0.0%
Swash Mix: 3 servos, 120. EXP ACT. (Settings will be specific to servos used)
TRVL ADJ: (All values will be unique to each heli)
Sub Trim: (All values will be unique to each heli)
REV SW: (As per your setup - as necessary to get servos to work properly)

There you go. Note: These settings aren't worth much!

Now, the only info that counts are the pitch and throttle curves and these are not radio specific. Additionally, they need to be adjusted to your flying style and equipment. I'm currently a sport flyer but will be trying simple 3D this spring so I will probably just use linear pitch curves in all three flight modes soon - just to keep it consistent.

I use a CC25 in governor mode and so my throttle curves are flat. If you used fixed throttle modes, then you need to mess with your curves a bit. Maybe the other guys here can help with that.

Anyway, all you need to know is readily available from most RC heli FAQs on radio setup and is not 8103 specific.

Even though it's about a Trex, you might find this setup guide useful. It covers the theory pretty well in a nice, simple way.

Hope this helps.
03-14-2006 Over year old.
 
 
genovia
Elite Veteran
Location: N UR NECK OF DA WOODS

The 8103 is easy to work with and setup.. I've been a JR user and here is my setup, still the same setup as I had before.

My setup (for now, please set yours up to suit your taste and style of flying, mine is mediocre)

Pitch: ( I found that the 3D pro. doesn't need a lot of pitch)

Norm and Idle modes: (linear)

27-40-54-68-81

No expo.

THC curve.

Norm. linear 0-100%

Idle 1&2 100-75-50-75-100 "V" curve.

Rudder ATV: 90/90 (R&L)

If your going 100% (R&L) you won't be able to count your pirouette spins

Subtrim to servo that needs centering, but mechanical trim was done prior to radio programing.

No Mix.
No Revo.
No Expo.

GY 401 Rate:

0-70%
1-10%

Radio used JR 8103
03-15-2006 Over year old.
 
 
genovia
Elite Veteran
Location: N UR NECK OF DA WOODS

here's the video of this setup http://www.runryder.com/helicopter/...ht=3d+pro+video
03-15-2006 Over year old.
 
 
Teufel-Hundin
Heliman
Location: Saint Petersburg FL

Thanks thats what I was looking for.
03-18-2006 Over year old.
 
 
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