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Dr.Tim
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Location: Mojave Desert

Learning to fly the FlyBarless Head !
Some Background on myself.
Hello All! I have been flying Radio Controlled Aircraft since 1968. Spent about a Year trying to fly a HeliBoy with very little success! Then in 1982 I built and Flew a GMP Competitor Pro with Great Success!! What a Difference 10 years made. I flew this Heli for about a year and went back to Aircraft. Then in November 2001 my wife to be purchased a Vario Benzin trainer for me – WHAT A DIFFERENCE!!!! This thing was a blast! I could do nose in Hovers in about a week, Loops by the end of the month!! I felt that I finally had control response that was lacking in the early designs. Although I contribute most of this to the Computer Radio’s of today. I started Flying Scale in January 2002 with a Big Carbon Airwolf. This took a lot of practice, as I was not aware of the flying characteristics of a Heavy Helicopter! So I contacted Dave Bottita in Las Vegas for help – He helps me get the setup correct and flying straight! What an awakening experience. My Next Scale Helicopter was a Huey 205 Gasser from Vario . I flew this at several competitions with good results but it was lacking a cockpit and the Scale head. I decided to finish it out to look like the Huey my Father flew in during Vietnam. Although this paint job was done with a broom and lasted 3 days I had to immortalize the Huey me deceased father flew in.

Now for the Fun Stuff – The Flybarless Head!
After I was quite comfortable with the setup with the Flybar Head I downloaded the Program from my JR10x into my Data Safe on my computer. I removed the Flybar Head and installed the Scale (Semi Flybarless) Head. Made sure that all the pitch settings were correct and that nothing had changed from my original setup.
Day One; My first flight was nothing short of horrifying!! The Huey was coming back at me, I had the Elevator stick full forward and NOTHING was happening! I managed to get it level and landed it as soon as possible. I took the ATV’s from 60% and moved the Elevator to 100% -- This helped but still not enough control so I went to 125% on both Elevator and Aileron. Well at this stage (3 Hours and counting) I decided to go home and think about it a little before changing anything else.
Day Two: Well things were a bit easier today as I was able to at least keep it in the air – although it was all over the place!! I landed and checked pitch curves and linkages. Went back into hover and checked head speed – 1250 solid!! Everything looked good but I was having a terrible time hovering this thing. I decided to adjust the Exponential – The Benzin liked 60% so I lowered it to 30% to see if that helped. Refueled and took her up to find that there was substantial improvements !! But, not quite comfortable with control. I landed and lowered the Expo to 10% on Elevator and Aileron only! This helped so I knew I was going in the correct direction so I landed and took more – at Negative 10% Expo!! She flies just like the Flybar Head – I had to play a bit with the throttle and Pitch curves to maintain the 1250 head speed but now she is very comfortable to fly ! I have over 300 flights on her now without a mishap! Maintenance is a must and I would recommend that you remove the mechanics from your Scale helicopter at least every 10 flights just to Clean properly and check screws, bolts, nuts, linkage for any damage or cracks. Better to be Safe than sorry for not replacing something that you can not see if it is in the Fuselage!! Overall time to set up the Flybarless head to fly properly was 12 hours (3 hours a Day for a week) So don’t give up because it is a handful – I found if you keep at it and play with settings (Low Hover) till it Feels right that you can Fine tune it to perfection!! Good luck on your project!
Dr. Timothy Dawson
DawsonAirframes@hotmail.com
UpDate: With some adjustments to the linkages and swash timing I found I was able to do some major radio changes and achieve a smoother flight! This only took about the last 3 days at about 3 hours each session but, the results were positive! Here are a few photos of the JR10x Programming at this stage.










You will notice that these settings are different from what was stated above. With these settings and the linkage problem I was not aware of the Huey is now as gentle as a Trainer is!! Truly a Fine flying machine.
Hope this answeres a few questions -- By the way, I do Not use a GV1 or a Flybarless Gyro.
Dr. Timothy Dawson

From Simple minds come simple ideas! Starwood Models, Approach Engineering
10-11-2002 Over year old.
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Doug
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Location: Naples Florida....

How does it fly in forward flight?

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Dr.Tim
Key Veteran
Location: Mojave Desert

Forward Flight

Smooth as silk!


Dr.Tim

From Simple minds come simple ideas! Starwood Models, Approach Engineering
10-11-2002 Over year old.
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Doug
Elite Veteran
Location: Naples Florida....

That looks like a scale head. (flybar) with weights, does it have any damping (full scale has velocity damping on the flybar) this likly fly's like the early Kavan JR which had the same setup only with a longer flybar.

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Naomi
Elite Veteran
Location: Ontario, Canada

Dr. Tim,
I am not sure if you did or not.. when you switch to flybarless head.. The pitch Arms on the swash plate has to be shortened, else you have reduced a lots of throws. I had been advised by vario dealer about this, when I tried the flybarless head before. If you still have the long one at the base that connect the pitch, perhaps try the shorter arms. Hope that helps.

Naomi
10-12-2002 Over year old.
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wiwanczyk
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Location: Old Bridge, NJ

i flew a vario airwolf (the 6' one) with the flybarless elastomer head (no weights, paddles, nothing .. )

it flew just fine except for a nasty pitch up tendency durring forward flight ... then again, i never use more than -10% expo on anything anyway ...




Wojtek

nothing is ever fast enough !! www.voy-tech.net [IMG]http://www.voy-tech.net/other/baner[/IMG]
10-15-2002 Over year old.
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