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Main Discussion > For $25.00!!!! Take a look at this one....Words of Warning!!!!!
 
 
doorman
Elite Veteran
Location: E.Berne, NY

Since the link to the pm's would not work, I have posted them below.. makes for good reading!!!!
This is a listing of my PM's to a "gentleman" (Jared J) that I puchased a WT643 carb from here on RR...
When I recieved it, I looked in the box and saw the carb and then put it on my bench until I could get to that project....
This last Saturday when I noticed the carb in the box was not the one stated or sent, I contacted him and ask him to refund my money since it was not as stated... and then I get accused of swithcing it and trying to "stick" him for $25.00!!!!! And this was a special order from a lawn supply?? Mine has them on the shelve...and it would be a returnable item.... but since I was here to give someone the shaft, what do I know...
I will let you guys throw it around, but it is a lesson well learned... guess I got a little too trusting because that is the way that I treat people, and expect the same... glad it wasn't a lot of money, but I guess it is to Jared J.....
So I had to go in a change my good guy posting too, so others will know how he deals....
Thanks for looking, and I quess we should all ask more questions...and for more photo's with more detail...
Anyone need a 677 carb????
Stan

If there is a cure for this, please don't tell me about it!!!
02-20-2006 Over year old.
 
 
Westbender
Heliman
Location: West Bend, WI

I guess you'll never know whether he knew he was sending the wrong part relative to what he advertised. It sounds like it could just be a mistake on his part and he's not the "stand up" type who could consider that to be the case. Is the carb he sent of significantly lower value than the one you were expecting? Or is it of equivilant value (price-wise), but just the wrong part. If they're worth roughly the same, then there's really no incentive for him to mis-identify it unless it was a hard-to-find part.

I wasn't able to access the PM's via your link, but by the way it sounds, he's certainly not someone I'd want to do business with. How hard would it be for him to look into it to see if maybe he has the part you want and sent the wrong one by mistake. Even if he believed he sent the correct part, he could have enough manners to have a civil discussion with you without accusing you of trying to rip him off.

I think it's still ok for you to give people the benefit of the doubt. However, it's hard these days not to turn completely cynical because of the occasional bad experience like this. Don't change your attitude about trusting people. The number of good folks out there far outweigh the bad.

My 2 cents.
02-20-2006 Over year old.
 
 
ROTATOR
Senior Heliman
Location: Chesapeake, VA-------USA

While I don't have any knowledge of the deal your referring to, I do have quite a bit of knowledge of Jared J. I have flown with him for a long time, and I'm here to tell you, there has to be a mix up somewhere, he is NOT the kind of person who would intentially screw anyone. I'm not calling anyone a liar or anything like that, I'm just letting you know about the man I know.

"A gun in the hand is better than a cop on the phone"-------AIM "ROTATOR PG"
02-20-2006 Over year old.
 
 
doorman
Elite Veteran
Location: E.Berne, NY

Mix Up....

ROTATOR,
I am certain that there was a mix up and that is all that I called out in my PM to him... and I can appreciate that "stuff" happens, but he came back to me in two pm's suggesting that I may have changed the carb so it is not his problem and he will not take it back or return my funds... basically, TOO BAD FOR ME....
But I also know that the 677 carb is not a good carb to have on anything RC and I was sold a 643....and did not get it...
If I could use it I would, but more people are having trouble with this carb then not, so I will not try to sell it to anyone else, and as far as the pricing goes, I have not checked to see if they are equal, but I know that the carbs are not and that is what counts...
Westbender, thanks for the encouragement and I know that they are not all bad, and I have had very good dealings with quite a few people and never a problem before, so I consider myself pretty lucky in that respect... in this case it is more him questioning my integrity, when he if fact did send me the wrong carb... the box that he sent does say 643 on it, but the carb inside surely does not...
Thanks to both for your responses... Stan

If there is a cure for this, please don't tell me about it!!!
02-20-2006 Over year old.
 
 
Jared J
Senior Heliman
Location: VA

Ok, first let me say that others who have bought anything from me in the past few weeks were very satisfied, I've had no complaints. The carb was an extra 643 that I had from my Century gasser.

To visit the past, I had a gasser that came with no carb. Doug, while at Century, was kind enough to take care of that problem but while he was dealing with the Century red tape I had ordered a WT-643 from a local lawn and garden shop. While waiting for that one to come in as it was on backorder, the one from Century arrived which left me with 2 WT-643's now. The one that Doorman bought had never been out of the box except to take pics of it. I doubt the shop I ordered from would have swapped parts and I don't want to claim that Doorman did either, but I know the carb he was sent was a 643.

I have explained this to him several times through PM's and still he claims I sent the wrong carb. Doorman, if there was a mistake at the shop here, I guess we will never know but don't try to bash someone if no one is sure what happened. Again, as far as I know I sent you a WT-643 and in my defense since you said you had several carbs at home, I can't be sure you didn't get them mixed up yourself.
02-20-2006 Over year old.
 
 
doorman
Elite Veteran
Location: E.Berne, NY

No Ones Fault....,

Jared J,
That carb sat in the box it came in since the day it arrived... if I had taken the time to take it out and look at it closely, I would have seen it when it arrived and let you know right then...
I do not have several carbs laying around my shop and the ones that I mentioned are all on existing heli's...and since you did not know what marking I was talking about I offered to shoot a picture of one to show you... and then you had the nerve to ask me how you knew that I was taking the picture of the right one....
So again you are still insinuating that I am a liar and a thief and that I am going through this BS for $25.00... you mailed a package.. I received a package, I opened said package and saw a carb in it... when I went to install it, I found the marking on the side that says 677 NOT 643.... then I contacted you....at no time did I change it to something else... but the more that you say I did just makes me think that you may have had full knowledge of this or you would be stand up enough to take it back...but that is not what is happening, is it??? Can you spell FRAUD???? I was willing to let this go as an error on the part of the supplier, but now I am not sure... the only thing that I am certain of is that I did not get what you said you were supplying.... Thanks again....Stan

If there is a cure for this, please don't tell me about it!!!
02-20-2006 Over year old.
 
 
2LTime
Veteran
Location: Walworth,NY

Stan's a good guy and would not do anything illigitamate. Very honest guy.

Jeff

If you can't learn to do it well, learn to enjoy doing it badly.
02-20-2006 Over year old.
 
 
allns47
Veteran
Location: Richmond IN.

I know when i buy something and when i finally get the shipment i look at it right then and make sure i got what i paid for.I can not see why you would wait a week and then look at it..When I buy something its like it is Christmas time and i can not wait to open the package and see what i got, or did not get...
02-20-2006 Over year old.
 
 
doorman
Elite Veteran
Location: E.Berne, NY

Christmas!!!!!

Allns47... I did take a quick look when it arrived and there was a carb in the bax... I didn't check the numbers, but will next time!!!!
I have had some pm's that said my link will not work, so here are the pm's and the original link.... for your reading enjoyment!!!! So scroll down and read them from the start!!!! Nice guy....



Jared J Status: Veteran - Registered: Dec 1969 - Location: VA
Re: Re Topic: Zenoah WT-643 carb **SOLD**

I understand, and I will reply in the forums on my side as well.


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doorman wrote on 02-20-2006 10:42 AM:
Hi Jared J

Well, thank you for turning your problem into mine...
I don't know who made the change, but it was certinly not me and I don't apreciate you insinuating that I would try switching this and then blaming it on you for $25.00!!!
For $25.00 I would rather keep my reputation clean as it has been for years... yours on the other hand I have no idea about or care, so I will take this to open forum just to let others know the excellent "deal" that you gave me...
Thank you for NOTHING!!!! Stan

If there is a cure for this, I don't want to know about it...


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Jared J wrote on 02-20-2006 10:31 AM:
Actually, I did call Land and Coates this morning, who I ordered the carb from. They said special orders are not returnable. I told them the whole story and guess what they said? They asked me how do I know that the person I sent the carb to didn't switch it? I am sorry you think it's the wrong carb, but I have no use for it anymore, if indeed it is the wrong one.


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doorman wrote on 02-20-2006 10:21 AM:
Hi Jared J

You posted a WT-643 carb....
And that is what I purchased, and I agree that it was a good price and that is why I purchased it.... but it is not a good price for something that I did not want or have usage for.
And NO I will not try to pass this onto someone else. You sold it to me and it is not what was stated so it is your responsibility to make it rtigh and that is to take it back and give me a refund.... and if it did come this way to you, then why not take it back to where you bought it and tell them that same thing I am telling you and they will give you the full price that you paid instead of the $25.00 that I sent you in good faith...,
Now please stop screwing around with this and give me you info so that I can package this back up and get it back to you tommorows mail..

Thank You, Stan

If there is a cure for this, I don't want to know about it...


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Jared J wrote on 02-20-2006 09:07 AM:
I'm not accusing you of anything, however I sold a carb you bought a carb. The carb I posted was a 643, I don't think the shop gave me the wrong one. Regardless, you got a good price, as I paid $49.99 for the carb. I'm sure you could find someone that can use it as I am now out of the hobby.


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doorman wrote on 02-20-2006 08:26 AM:
Hi Jared J

Please give me a break here.... take a look at my gallery and tell me truthfully if you think that I would go through the trouble of changing out a carb so that I could SCREW you out of $20.00?????
I did not change a dammed thing and I am not a crook.... I am not saying that you changed it either, but what I am telling you is that what I got is not what was listed or received...
Now please make this right.... your implication is that I switched something or would is insulting to say the least....

If there is a cure for this, I don't want to know about it...


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Jared J wrote on 02-20-2006 08:20 AM:
That is definitely strange, I don't remember seeing a stamping on the carb. No offense or anything, but how can I know that if you take a pic of the carb, it's not one of your others? All I know is that I ordered a 643, never used it, then sent it to you. I can't really be sure that someone mixed them up. I believe the carb was a 643 as stated on the box.


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doorman wrote on 02-20-2006 07:28 AM:
Hi Jared J

I agree the box says 643 but the carb inside is a 677 and is not a good carb for RC applications... someone must have mixed them up or something..
I can take pic's of the stamping on the carb if you would like, and of the carbs on my other engines to show you, but this is not a 643 as the box states.
So, I would like your mailing info so that can send this back to you and I would like a refund..

Thank you, Stan

If there is a cure for this, I don't want to know about it...


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Jared J wrote on 02-19-2006 07:44 PM:
Hey Stan, I'm not quite sure what you mean. I ordered that carb from a local lawn/garden repair shop and that's the one I got. I'm sure it was correct, the box showed it as a WT-643.


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doorman wrote on 02-18-2006 08:01 PM:
Hi Jared J

Hello Jared,

Well, I finally got to start work on the project that I bought this carb from you for... and while looking things over, I found that the carb is marked 677 and not 643 as is listed on the box...
So I would like to return this to you for a full refund since it is not the carb that I wanted...
Please get back to me on this ASAP.... Thank you, Stan

If there is a cure for this, I don't want to know about it...


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Topic: http://www.runryder.com/helicopter/t228047p1/
Post: http://www.runryder.com/helicopter/p1740367/#p1740367
Zenoah WT-643 carb **SOLD**
Brand new... $25 shipped

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If there is a cure for this, please don't tell me about it!!!
02-21-2006 Over year old.
 
 
Jared J
Senior Heliman
Location: VA

Yep... those are my words exactly.
02-21-2006 Over year old.
 
 
doorman
Elite Veteran
Location: E.Berne, NY

Jared J

At least I can say one thing in your favor... you are consistent with your I don't give a dammed attitude... but that would be expected from someone that would pull a deal as lame as you did here... and as you state, you are leaving the hobby, well thank you for that... to pull something like this just shows you were never really in the hobby and I personally can say that I am glad to see you leave it... enjoy the big $$'s you made shooting your own reputation...

Stan......

If there is a cure for this, please don't tell me about it!!!
02-21-2006 Over year old.
 
 
dgshaffer
Elite Veteran
Location: New Jersey

Leaving the hobby? Looks like it's time to clear out the invintory.

Well Doorman it's too bad it had to be at your expense but at least you brought this to light. Keep an eye out for any future sales and be sure to contact any potential buyers with this information as well as reposting it in his for sale adds. At least that way you can make him earn the money.
02-21-2006 Over year old.
 
 
Jimmi
Key Veteran
Location: Southern Ca. U.S.A.

From what I have been reading, no one has mentioned the fact that Jared said it was the correct one and said so on the box. Leaves me to believe that its possible that the one the lawn company gave you was never checked to see if it indeed was the correct item. You just took it for what the box said and to me it saids alot. Possibly being the wrong item boxed. It happens all the time.. Jimmi P.S. by saying "I don't think the shop gave me the wrong one" end quote makes it sound like your not sure...

Build the best, fly the best, crash the best
02-21-2006 Over year old.
 
 
Westbender
Heliman
Location: West Bend, WI

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02-21-2006 Over year old.
 
 
Westbender
Heliman
Location: West Bend, WI

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02-21-2006 Over year old.
 
 
greenboot
Senior Heliman
Location: St Louis, Mo

How can this tread be so long without having any profanity? You guys need to either forget about it or let the sh*t fly.

Tom
02-21-2006 Over year old.
 
 
Nubie Evo
Senior Heliman
Location: UK>Essex

lol...greenboots ur killin me man!!...

DUST OFF !!
02-21-2006 Over year old.
 
 
Grant H
Key Veteran
Location: Maryland

Quote 
You guys need to either forget about it or let the sh*t fly.


I agree..

Last nights drama was the "Read the #### manual dumbass" or whatever.

How about you guys commence the swearing and sh$t throwing at around 7:30 tonight, nothing on TV..
Is that good for everyone?
I'll be waiting..
02-21-2006 Over year old.
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Helinutnz
Elite Veteran
Location: below 42 South

For goodness sake. The lawn company sent the wrong carb even though the box said it was different. Someone has switched out the carb in that box albeit accidentally. Makes for perrty easy conclusion after reading. All of us have probably got something in our lifetime from a company that was wrong. It should go back to the lawn company. Jared should take it. Pretty easy to see doorman isn't lying.
Doesn't sound like jared is lying either but dude you sold it as something else....doorman isn't going to be able to take it back to the lawn company is he? Because they won't take it back (even though they should as they supplied the wrong part) you will stiff the guy for a lousy $25 bucks?
02-21-2006 Over year old.
 
 
allns47
Veteran
Location: Richmond IN.

doorman

No harm intended from my post doorman,,,I hate the deal went bad....
02-21-2006 Over year old.
 
 
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