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e-Mikado Logo 400 500 600 > What's the skinny on the LOGO?
 
 
TheDudeVT
Veteran
Location: Burlington VT

What's the skinny on the new LOGO pricing?

My question is this:

Can anyone substantiate the rumours?
Is there a date for the price change?
Are any other helis affected besides the LOGO10? Any change in parts pricing for the L14/L24?

I figured it was just a rumour, but it has been repeated by some very reputable people who's opinion I regard highly.

Gary Goodrum from TPPacks writes:

"I hear there will be a new Logo 10 2006 model this spring that will be priced at $199. Evidently, Ralf has finished amortizing the mold costs on most of the plastic parts, and there is also going to be a big price reduction on spares. I'm sure this is all being driven by the Swift's appearance on the scene, but who cares! AeroModel was selling Logo 10s, with an A30-8XL and a controller at the AMA show today for $399. That ought to get a few people's attention.

-- Gary"

And:

The other big news is that Mikado has finished amortizing the mold costs on most of the pieces, so there is going to be a huge price reduction on parts, maybe as much as 60%. Of course this is happening because of competition from the Swift, but like I said in another thread, who cares!

--[also Gary Goodrum]

This certainly makes sense from a business stand point, the Swift is getting alot of buzz (in spite of the fact that it's a Century product and it appears to have some pitch-up problems in FF) and the FUD (Fear, Uncertainty, Doubt) is coming on strong and thick for the bigger Align product.

Competitive pricing will certainly do well towards maintaining market share. Mikado already has two parts of the hat trick- a quality heli and great service. A price drop, combined with dropping battery prices could spell a sharp up-tick in sales as all the micro and T-Rex pilots (like me,I've got a LOGO10C sitting on my shelf waiting for a Neu...) decide to get something bigger for the 2006 season. Mikado may be seeing the same trend and they're ready to switch from low volume/high cost to high volume/low cost production-

Speaking of lower battery prices, If you haven't already, check out the buzz (on RCG) on the eMoli Li-Ion cells being tested now- you can already buy them (for Milwaukee 28v drills) and fly a LOGO10 for 10 minutes on a $99 7S1P 3000 pack! Most T-rex guys are running $100 TP prolite packs! The kicker is they're round cells, and are more resistant to crash damage...

I love my T-Rex, and it will alway be sorta special to me as I learned to (really) fly on it- but, why buy a T-Rex when you can get a LOGO10 for a similar price? OK, I concede the motor and ESC are a bit more expensive, but there's a big jump there in quality and performance.

I really think 2006 is gonna be the year 30-50 size e-helis blossom- It's a good time for the consumer, and let's hope Mikado takes full advantage of the opportunity as well.

let's hear it for a competitive market place.


TheDudeVT
T-Rex,3S2200,Medusa340011T,CC25,Berg5
4xHS56,GY401,RotorWorkz,alu head,CFblades
01-16-2006 Over year old.
 
 
Lorents
Elite Veteran
Location: Oslo, Norway

I guess Logo can feel the preasure now that many of the other brands will release their own electric helis. Hope the competition will affect kit and lipo prices in the future.

BTW: I went to another field with my Logo yesterday where a couple of nice guys where flying their raptors. They didnt think much of e-helis until they actually saw it in the air performing as well as their raptors. I guess there still are people out there who think about e-helis as no more than a toy...



What comes around goes around.
01-16-2006 Over year old.
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TheDudeVT
Veteran
Location: Burlington VT

e-helis have really come a long way since the Voyager-E and the Piccolo...

I'm with you on the daylight- while not as bad as Norway, sun sets at 4:30 so flying after work is out- even on warm windless nights.


TheDudeVT
T-Rex,3S2200,Medusa340011T,CC25,Berg5
4xHS56,GY401,RotorWorkz,alu head,CFblades
01-16-2006 Over year old.
 
 
pinoy
Veteran
Location: Muncie, Indiana USA/Obando, Bulacan Philippines

I'm keeping my eyes open on having a e-heli but also at the same time waiting for the right time to buy one when the price is really going down already . It went down already compared to how much it was before specially the price of the lipo packs and also reliability and high discharge rate in it so maybe this coming Toledo or IRCHA I might finally get one. Any suggestions and why?... Thanks, Pinoy...
01-16-2006 Over year old.
 
 
OICU812
rrProfessor
Location: Grande Prairie, Alberta, Canada

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BTW: I went to another field with my Logo yesterday where a couple nice guys where flying their raptors. They didnt think much of e-helis until they actually saw it in the air performing as well as their raptors. I guess there still are people out there who think about e-helis as no more than a toy...


That statement is so true even where I live,,, I plan on shaking up some people this summer! We need to make beleivers out of them!!

...Once upon a time there were Nitros, flybars and frequency pins...
01-16-2006 Over year old.
 
 
Lorents
Elite Veteran
Location: Oslo, Norway

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I'm with you on the daylight- while not as bad as Norway, sun sets at 4:30 so flying after work is out- even on warm windless nights.

Annoying insnt it? Summers are great though!


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I plan on shaking up some people this summer! We need to make beleivers out of them!!

Yeah, lets all travel from field to field and do some missionary work this summer
It would probably be easier to convert people if lipos where cheaper and didnt catch fire all the time. I wonder when we will get a really safe alternative to lipos?


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I'm keeping my eyes open on having a e-heli but also at the same time waiting for the right time to buy one when the price is really going down already .

Bying a e-helis and lipos is like buying a computer - the moment you get one a better and cheaper model is released



What comes around goes around.
01-16-2006 Over year old.
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OICU812
rrProfessor
Location: Grande Prairie, Alberta, Canada

Well all I gotta say is that if the parts do in fact get cheaper, and if this Logo 14 is half of what I think it is going to be, I can see myself ditching my nitros all together this summer and maybe buying more packs or something,,,,,,

...Once upon a time there were Nitros, flybars and frequency pins...
01-17-2006 Over year old.
 
 
Lorents
Elite Veteran
Location: Oslo, Norway

Hmmm, thats an idea... sell my raptor and get a proper HV setup with packs to go...



What comes around goes around.
01-17-2006 Over year old.
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synchro505
Senior Heliman
Location: Topanga, CA

Sorry for the off-topic question but I wonder if anyone has flown their heli at night with night vision goggles?
01-19-2006 Over year old.
 
 
Lorents
Elite Veteran
Location: Oslo, Norway

Hehe, very off topic...

When I was in the army (about 15 years ago) we used night goggles to scout for enemys (russians at the time) - it is a challenge to determine distances to things with night goggles so I dont think flying a rc-heli would be feasable...



What comes around goes around.
01-19-2006 Over year old.
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OICU812
rrProfessor
Location: Grande Prairie, Alberta, Canada

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Sorry for the off-topic question but I wonder if anyone has flown their heli at night with night vision goggles?


Now that is funny and crazy all rolled up into one!!!

...Once upon a time there were Nitros, flybars and frequency pins...
01-19-2006 Over year old.
 
 
synchro505
Senior Heliman
Location: Topanga, CA

I was sypathizing with Lorents about the lack of light in his region. But back to topic: I hope the price of Logo parts comes down soon also. And a few more manufacturer of Logo bling would be nice too.

Mike
01-19-2006 Over year old.
 
 
steph280
Key Veteran
Location: Irvine, California

Buddy of mine bought a Logo 10 combo complete with Hacker outrunner and ESC for $399 from Sean Plummer at the AMA show. He says this will be the going price soon to be advertised everywhere.

With the new cheaper Li-Ion technology, larger helis are going to take the market by storm this year.

But with the larger helis in my fleet, I still love my T-Rex for the ability to fly at nearby parks. So there will be a market for both.
01-19-2006 Over year old.
 
 
Lorents
Elite Veteran
Location: Oslo, Norway

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I was sypathizing with Lorents about the lack of light in his region.

Thanks, appreciate it



What comes around goes around.
01-20-2006 Over year old.
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LogoHeli
Veteran
Location: Brisbane, Queensland, Australia

Good chance that i will sell my R50 to go all electric. No more mess. Then i can fully bling out my L10 with the cash.

hmmmm; carbon frames, stretch boom, QUK alu blade grips, alu motor plate, nice set of carbon tail blades.

FULLY SIK

heli+ground/heli+tree/heli+bush=not good
01-21-2006 Over year old.
 
 
synchro505
Senior Heliman
Location: Topanga, CA

If and when they do reduce prices, will you be more daring during your flights?
01-27-2006 Over year old.
 
 
TheDudeVT
Veteran
Location: Burlington VT

I think without a doubt the cost of repair (and your ability to pay for it) seriously affects your aggresiveness, and therefore affects how quickly you progress up the learning curve. That's why alot of people learning 3D opt for wood blades, even though there's a performance hit. They're much cheaper to repair.

Crashing an L10 at this point costs more than crashing a T-Rex ($30), easily by a factor of 5, if not 10 ($150-$300). I found that the biggest reason for me not to crash my T-Rex was not the money, it was the time- I got sick of spending 10-12 hours a week putting back together.


TheDudeVT
T-Rex,3S2200,Medusa340011T,CC25,Berg5
4xHS56,GY401,RotorWorkz,alu head,CFblades
01-30-2006 Over year old.
 
 
Shun
Senior Heliman
Location: Houston, Tx

what is the initial crash cost of say a logo 10 best to worst case scenario? I am very intrested in buying one, but I need the whole setup from kit to charger
01-30-2006 Over year old.
 
 
GScott
Key Veteran
Location: Lewis Center, OH

Is there any further information on this price drop? I have a Swift that I may want to dump if the rumored price drops are true. Century's service is pathetic at best.
01-31-2006 Over year old.
 
 
Shun
Senior Heliman
Location: Houston, Tx

yeah Gscott, thats what keeps me from the whole century line
01-31-2006 Over year old.
 
 
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