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e-E-Flite Blade CP CX 400-3D > Need setup info for Futaba T6exhp

slider46
rrProfessor
Location: Gloversville, NY

I just got a new radio and need basic setup info for the blade cp I can do the fine tuning later but would like to get a good starting point to go from.
Thanks,
Tom

Tom..... No "D" flying....

01-04-2006 Over year old.

Gary Hoorn
Key Veteran
Location: Annapolis Maryland USA

Tom,
If you are new to CCPM I find the following is the easiest way to set it up the first time.

Firstly ensure the servo that is connected to the swash on the center line of the heli (the vertical one at the front in this case) is plugged in to the elevator channel. Then connect the other two servo's into the aileron and pitch channels - does not matter which way around.

Next switch on the radio (with motor not connected) ensure the radio is set to appropriate CCPM mix (120deg), clear your pitch curve, center all sticks and clear sub trims then connect the servo arms so that arms are at right angles to the push rods.

Next move the collective stick and reverse servos one at a time till they are all moving in the appropriate direction (Up collective stick for positive pitch). Next try aileron and elevator inputs, do not attempt to use servo reversing to change their directions, use the swash mix ratios (Change from +60% to -60% for example if direction is wrong).

Now all inputs should be working in the correct direction fine tune the swash ratios to get suitable pitch and cyclic deflections and use sub trims to level the swash out at center stick if required. Use the end point adjusts on each servo individually to make sure swashplate stays level at full deflection up and down.

From here you should be able to use your pitch curves and dual rates as normal to fine tune it to suit your flying style.
Gary

01-04-2006 Over year old.

slider46
rrProfessor
Location: Gloversville, NY

You just saved me a hundred questions, I just tried to set up the blade cp and nothing is working the way it should but if I follow your set up plan I think I can get it dialed in... The big question is which swash layout should I use 1-s or 3-s It doesn't say if one is 120* or not.
Also the desired stick mode for throttle on the left stick....

Tom..... No "D" flying....

01-04-2006 Over year old.

Rogersresort
Veteran
Location: Algonac MI

Hello Tom,
How do you like your Futaba T6EXH radio? I need to get a good radio and that one is on my list.

Thanks

Arnie

01-05-2006 Over year old.

Gary Hoorn
Key Veteran
Location: Annapolis Maryland USA

Tom,
I use the H3 with my 7CHP. I assume it would be the same.
Gary

01-05-2006 Over year old.

slider46
rrProfessor
Location: Gloversville, NY

Arnie I have only started programing the radio but it looks like this radio will do everything you could ever ask for. Only one idle up, it has dual rates, and throttle hold for autos.... In the programing you can set the rates for everything.. I had a 9 chp in the 80's and this is as good as that was... I'm very impressed with this radio..... Also the stock Rx will work with the Futaba Tx....

Gary, I have the servos going in the right direction and centered I just need to get the swash plate level with rod adjustments and I can start setting the limits for the servos, then the throttle and pitch curves.... It's simple when you get started in the right direction.. Any other suggestions to ease the pain of set up??
Thanks,
Tom

Tom..... No "D" flying....

01-05-2006 Over year old.

Rogersresort
Veteran
Location: Algonac MI

Tom,
I appreciate the info ,I'll be looking for one. The other radio I was looking at is the Hitec optic6. Someone set one up on their blade and posted the setup so I printed it out. I'll be watching this post as I perfer the Futaba.

Arnie

01-05-2006 Over year old.

slider46
rrProfessor
Location: Gloversville, NY

Arnie buy the Futaba you won't be sorry. I have had alot of their radios over the years and some of the other brands, I always go back to the Futaba. They are just user friendly and give you great quality for the price.....Plus the resale is always good....

Tom..... No "D" flying....

01-05-2006 Over year old.

Rogersresort
Veteran
Location: Algonac MI

Ok Tom I believe you. Now get your blade cp setup and please share that info in this post. My blade cp is steady as my FP elite ,but with a good radio I'm sure I'll be able to go to a higher level of flying.

Arnie

01-05-2006 Over year old.

Gary Hoorn
Key Veteran
Location: Annapolis Maryland USA

Tom,
Glad I could help. Sounds like you are off in the correct direction. It takes a bit of work to get it right. Once everything is level and centered make sure the swash remains level when it travels from end to end. Use the end points to correct any discrepancy in the amount of travel amongst the various servos. More than likely you will have to reduce the swash pitch quite a bit to avoid binding. Limit your cyclic to about 6 degrees fore and aft, left and right for starters. I do not use dual rate. I am using 10% expo on all axis. Be sure and set up throttle hold to shut off the motor. Might save your 4 in 1 one day!
Gary

01-05-2006 Over year old.

slider46
rrProfessor
Location: Gloversville, NY

Boy did I goof up... I set all of the sevos where I wanted them last nite and forgot to save my changes, so I'm back to square one tonite.... I hate it when I do stupid stuff.... I'm going back in to see if I can get back to where I was last nite.

Tom..... No "D" flying....

01-05-2006 Over year old.

Rogersresort
Veteran
Location: Algonac MI

Tom,
That's how we learn through repetition, it will be easier for you the second time around. You're doing fine young man.

Arnie

01-05-2006 Over year old.

slider46
rrProfessor
Location: Gloversville, NY

Well I got everything in the radio setup. The only thing that doesn't work right is the idle up doesn't go to negitive pitch at low throttle. (Motors are unplugged)My batteries died in the tx before I could figure out what the problem is... Anyone have a clue????
I'm sure I'll have alot of adjustments to dial in the bcp but I think I'm close enough to hover, We'll know tomorrow I'll try it on the sim first them to the bird

Tom..... No "D" flying....

01-06-2006 Over year old.

Gary Hoorn
Key Veteran
Location: Annapolis Maryland USA

Tom,
Each mode has to have its pitch and throttle curves setup, even throttle hold. When the Tx is charged go back and check out each menu again.
Gary

01-06-2006 Over year old.

slider46
rrProfessor
Location: Gloversville, NY

Well I have everything in the radio and can get the XTR to fly but It's wild and nearly out of control... I have all the sub trim in ail and ele available. The question is what do I have to adjust to get the trims back near 0???? Also do I use + revo mix up and - revo mix down? If I can get the heli on the sim right I know the Blade will be perfect.......

One more question, The tail rotor is spinning when I plug it in and so is the main rotor. I have the throttle curve set to 0 on the bottom but it looks like it is going to spin up quite fast, maybe reverse the servo on channel 3?

Tom..... No "D" flying....

01-07-2006 Over year old.

slider46
rrProfessor
Location: Gloversville, NY

Here is an update on the 6 channel Futaba radio Change over. I got both the Blade cp and my v3 on the one radio now. I can change everything from the radio, so adding a fuse would be no big deal. My flight times have increased by 2 min, as the mixer doesn't have to work so hard to hold the tail, I think. One thing that bugs me is having to fly at 75% throttle all the time I can set the curves up so I can stay at 50% throttle now if I want to...
One other nice feature is not having to re trim the heli everytime I fly it, The trim settings seem to stay the same from flight to flight. If you plan to stay in the hobby I would srongly recommend getting a good radio as your first upgrade....
Gary Thanks for all of your help... It made things alot easier with your knowledge of the ccpm radios... And there is alot to learn with these new radios.........

Tom..... No "D" flying....

01-08-2006 Over year old.

Gary Hoorn
Key Veteran
Location: Annapolis Maryland USA

Tom,
Good to hear mate! Now just don't make the mistake that myself and many others have made when switching models. Check the model setting in the Tx before arming the bird. I have 4 Helis in my Futaba and almost launched my HDE with my CDE program. That would have been interesting to say the least! Make sure throttle hold is setup the same way in each and every model in your Tx and always do a full control check before spooling up.

Weather has not been good here lately but was able to get out for 3 flights this afternoon. Sure felt good to get some stick time. I have been flying the Blade CX around the house in the meantime

Gary

01-08-2006 Over year old.

Rogersresort
Veteran
Location: Algonac MI

Slider46,
Good job Tom, could you post the setup please so I can print it out and have a good head start when my Tx comes this week.

Thanks,

Arnie

01-09-2006 Over year old.

Gary Hoorn
Key Veteran
Location: Annapolis Maryland USA

Arnie,
Use the guide I posted above for initial setup. Do not be surprised if the numbers Tom may provide you do not match up exactly. That is the nature of the beast. There are tolerances in every single part on a Heli and in the radio controlling it. Sometimes they go the right way and sometimes not. In addition there are personal preferences in setting up a Heli. Myself I use a straight linear pitch curve in all Modes including Throttle Hold. Throttle curves vary depending on the motor, gearlash, type of blade used etc. All of these variables plus the inherent instability of a Heli are what make it such a challenge.
Gary

01-09-2006 Over year old.

Rogersresort
Veteran
Location: Algonac MI

Gary,
Good point and thanks for the info. Once I read the manual I should understand more about setup. I'm sure if I run into something I don't understand I can get help here. Once Tom's questions were answered he took off and is flying again.

Arnie

01-09-2006 Over year old.

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