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Audacity Models Pantera 50 - Tiger 50 > 3D flybar
 
 
Learn to Fly
Key Veteran
Location: Yalesville Connecticut

Hello I just put the 3D flybar and paddles on. Is there a measurement to go by. How far apart should they be?

Also will putting the 3d flybar and paddles, and see saw change tracking? Or anything else I should adjust?

Thanks Jeff


Jeff
Believe nothing you hear, and half of what you see...
11-15-2005 Over year old.
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TUFF MUFFLER
Senior Heliman
Location: RUTLAND,VT

just make sure the fly bar is even to start with and space the paddles out even as well so as not to cause a vibration or out of bal problem then recheck yourc tracking. Tom
11-15-2005 Over year old.
 
 
darkfa8
Key Veteran
Location: Eatontown, NJ, USA

Jeff,

If you have a High Point or Du-Bro Tru-Spin balancer you can more accurately balance the assembly... or...

using the best ruler you have, center the fly-bar in the head. I believe the 3D flybar is 400mm long, so from the center of the fly-bar carrier or see-saw button head you should have 200mm from that point to the end of the fly-bar on either side. Get it as close as possible. You can loosen both set-screws in the carrier and adjust the bar till it's equal by snugging down one set-screw, then snug the other one once it's equal. Once done, pull out one set screw and add blue loc-tite, put that back in tight and repeat for the other side.

Depending on whether or not you want to balance the assembly, you can put on a 5/32" airplane wheel collar on each side of the fly-bar. Then what I do is screw on one paddle, make sure it's level/in-line with the carrier, until you can't see any more of the threads. Then I'll measure from the aluminum side of the fly-bar carrier where the set-screw goes through to the "root" edge of the paddle.

Then I'll screw on the other paddle and make sure the leading edge is opposite of the other paddle. You can check the manual to make sure you set the leading edges properly for each side. Screw on this paddle until it's out the same distance as the other. You might find a variance of 0.30-0.50mm on average and that's pretty much as close as you're gonna get due to the threads/inch of the fly-bar threaded ends.

After that, you can disconnect all linkages to the fly-bar, and let the bar float. If it's not level, move one of the wheel collars out until it levels. This balances the fly-bar chordwise. To do spanwise you'll need a High Point balancer or equivalent.

After that's all done, reattach all linkages, get the heli in the air and check your tracking, adjust as needed.

- Dan G. -
11-15-2005 Over year old.
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Learn to Fly
Key Veteran
Location: Yalesville Connecticut

When I put the See Saw on I had to use the button screws supplied. No problem.

But I had to add another button head screw on to the mixing arm too, or it hit the linkage and bound real bad. I have the screw in the inner hole.

Anyone else exp. this?


Jeff
Believe nothing you hear, and half of what you see...
11-17-2005 Over year old.
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darkfa8
Key Veteran
Location: Eatontown, NJ, USA

you used the M3 button heads on the see-saw that the fly-bar goes through? They hold the fly-bar assembly to the head yoke, use a lil bit of blue loc-tite on these.

The see-saw arms should use M3 cap head screws and there shouldn't be any clearance problems. If there is, something might be out of wack.

I'm also using the inner holes on the 3D see-saw for the see-saw arms.

Check to make sure the fly-bar carrier is square, check to make sure the screw holes for the see-saw arms aren't cracked or damaged, check to make sure all the bearings for the 3D see-saw and the see-saw arms are properly seated. Check to make sure all of your screws are straight and not bent. If you had a crash, sometimes the aluminum hardware can bend or crack.

That's about all I can think of. It should clear and have free movement.

- Dan G. -
11-17-2005 Over year old.
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jbeech
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Location: Sanford, FL (Orlando area)

First center the flybar, then make an accurate mark at 1 inch from each end and screw the padles on until you reach the mark. Lastly thing, make sure the threads go completely into the paddles (and none are visible) and then you'll be good to go.


John Beech - GM (and janitor)
Audacity Models
11-20-2005 Over year old.
 
 
scottc
Key Veteran
Location: shakopee minnesota..USA

i need to ask this question on the 3D setup on the tiger.

what part of the main 3d parts for the 3D setup meaning the 3d seesaw arm and the swash ball kit will make the heli more responsive or less responsive , i have the full 3d settings and the heli is a little but on the sensitive side i forward flight for my flying skill, i know the manule states with these add ons the heli will we be just that but what part would so to speak slow things down or make the heli les touchy in forward flight, i have the TT snow white paddels on the heli.
scott

Hey I didn't ask for this fetish.!!!But I'am sure paying for it....
11-20-2005 Over year old.
 
 
dbcaster
Senior Heliman
Location: Petaluma, Ca

Scott,
You can put the stock swashplate extensions back on. Also you can move the upper mixing arms back to the outer holes. Those will be two easy changes that should calm it down some.
11-20-2005 Over year old.
 
 
jbeech
rrAdvertiser
Location: Sanford, FL (Orlando area)

I happen to prefer the stock black paddles myself, but while still using the 3D Swashball kit as well as with the seesaw arms pivoting in the inner holes. However, like John said though, moving the seesaw arms to the outer pivot point is very easy to try.

Remember, nothing is cut and dried. A very nice thing about the Tiger 50 is how many points of adjustment you have for tailoring it to suit your style . . . a bad thing about the Tiger 50 is how many points of adjustment you have for tailoring it to suit your style!

In the end though, you have to experiment a bit and see what you like.


John Beech - GM (and janitor)
Audacity Models
11-20-2005 Over year old.
 
 
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