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mej
Senior Heliman
Location: Frostbite Falls, Mn

Recently I needed to paint some canopies and I damaged my trusty Sears touch up gun and ran out of clearcoat. I came across a fantastic urethane clear and a clone of a Sharpe HVLP gun that gave me wonderful results at a really low price.

PPG has an 'economy' brand of automotive Urethanes called Omni. It costs less than 1/3rd as much as what I've previously been using, and is easier to use.

The clearcoat is Omni MC260 'quick clear', about $20 a quart.
In addition you need Omni MH168 activator/reducer, $15 a half-pint.

A half pint would mix up with a half quart of clear to make 24 ounces of ready to spray with a pot life of 3 hours. Drying time can be as little as 2 hours, or overnight if left to stand.

This stuff is way cheaper than the PPG DCU 2020 that I've been using for years, My old DU5 reducer alone costs almost $60 a pint, and if you paint as many canopies as I do (which isn't much), you'll only use about 1/2 of the pint before it hardens up and has to be discarded. The other alternative that I considered is PPG Stratoclear, which will cost about $95 up front to get started.

So, I was very excited to try Omni which in total costs 35 bucks to get started. Also, because it's an HVLP system, you use a lot less. I mixed up 3 ounces for my Fury Extreme canopy, and I laid it in heavy and still threw away about 1/2 ounce after I was done. In contrast with DCU2020, I would mix up 8 ounces at a time, and usually had an ounce or less left over after one canopy.

Omni is mixed 2 to 1, so it comes out to $3.12 to cover one canopy using an HVLP gun which is very efficient. In contrast, by my guess, DCU 2020 through a standard gun loses about 50%. I typically used to mix up 8 ounces at a cost of $13.28, so I'm saving about 10 bucks a canopy.

I bought a fairly nice clone brand HVLP touch-up gun with its own valve for just under $100. This gun is gravity feed with a 6 ounce resevoir. Recommended pressure at the gun is about 45 pounds, and about 10 pounds at the cap. I was able to spray in my garage with hardly any overspray, while with my old gun I used to have clouds of overspray fill the garage so that I'd have to leave the door open. You can also use an airbrush for the clear, but it's more work.

The HVLP gun can be used for the primer and basecoats also, although I still prefer an airbrush for detail work.

If you want to try your hand at painting, this is an almost foolproof (and totally fuelproof) way to get a professional finish. These high solids urethanes can be sprayed on heavy with little fear of drips or runs. You'd have to try hard to screw it up.
09-09-2002 Over year old.
 
 
TBoone
Senior Heliman
Location: Arkansas

I too have been using the Omni AU for a year or so now and have been really impressed with it.

Tim

ps: It goes without saying that you should, at a minumum, use a good respirator with this stuff. Like other urethane clears it has isocyanates in it and will scorch some brain cells
09-09-2002 Over year old.
 
 
Hoagie1
Veteran
Location: Redmond, WA

Just had to bump up this post....

I recently went to Wesco autobody and described what I needed to get painted. They totally pushed me towards the PPG concept line (Concept DCU2021 clear, DPLF Expoxy primer, DBC\DBI basecoats), and told me to expect about a $600 for paint job. Yikes- I probably wasn't clear on my requirements or the size of my heli (ec135 to be painted).

A question to ask. Is it critical what base coat paint type to use before applying the clearcoat? I presume you just sand the surface lightly with some high-grain (1200+ grain) so the clear will stick.
02-09-2006 Over year old.
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AzHyper
Veteran
Location: Peoria, Az.

We've been using Omni for a couple of years now with superb results. It is compatible with everything we've tried underneath from various primers to faskolor lexan car paint to house of kolor automotive paints. Goes well over decals, graphics, etc. Good stuff!
02-09-2006 Over year old.
 
 
A.J.
Senior Heliman
Location: Winder, GA

My canopies have been cleared with Omni AU by some local auto body shops. Where can i buy it and do it myself?

A.J.

Stratus 90, Raven 50, Night Hawk Sport, Float/Standard Hawk Sport, Blade CP
02-10-2006 Over year old.
 
 
mojojo
Veteran
Location: Shrewsbury Massachusetts

Base clear

You can sand the primer dry, I like to wet sand it with 800
You Do Not sand the base coat!, unless you are going to put more base coat down. Example: A sripe or some other detail that has been masked off. You have to be carefull of the base coat untill you get the clear on it. I generall put two maybe three differnt basecoat colors on then seal it with a coat of Clear let dry then wet sand with 1000 wipe down and then Add more grafic effects, the canopy is easier to work on without effecting the paint below the thin coat of clear.
It is a good idea to stay with the same manufacture.you can mix and match tints Like SEM product Candy concentrates, just do some small test panels. OMNI is good stuff. and is sold at PPG suppiers.

Joe
02-10-2006 Over year old.
 
 
ntvw
New Heliman
Location: Los Angeles California

dcu 2020 ppg clear coat

I just came across a gallen of dcu 2020 ppg clear coat and i was wondering if you guys can tell me the mixing ratio to this product and the hardner and reducer numbers for it??? anyone:
07-04-2008 09:29 AM
 
 
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