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RCfan
Key Veteran
Location: Longwood, FL USA

Sorry, posted same image twice ... fixed now.
09-09-2005 10:35 PM
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Razmo
Key Veteran
Location: Chicago

Thanks!
09-09-2005 10:42 PM
 
 
MJA
Key Veteran
Location: Cumbria-UK

<>>

A hog is a type of pig
or US slang (with some types of bikers )for a motorcycle

or short slang for hogging,where something won't let something else have something or any time with it.

practical example of use
If you were to go flying at a fly-in somewhere and never brought the frequency peg back or released the channel for someone else to use,you would then be a channel or frequency hog

It is a bit of a pig also when Reflex won't detect the radio
sometimes:-)


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No, the USB interface is just voltage sensitive. Use a multimeter and check the USB power supply resources. See what the voltage does when your modem is hooed-up. The same could happen with a PDA sync station or a USB printer. According to the white book, USB volatge is 5.5V. I am facing difficulties on my interface at 5.0V or lower.
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I will check it sometime,but i would have thought it would do it whenever the modem is plugged in, which powers up 2 of the three green lights on it ,one of which is main modem power light.Rather than when it is just synced up to a DSL connection and connected to my ISP.Or it could just be AOL's software

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The question is, what is causing the voltage drop? Are you using the interface on a motherboard USB socket or through a hub?
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USB socket built onto the motherboard.But it has happend with more than one motherboard i've been using
09-10-2005 12:17 AM
 
 
MJA
Key Veteran
Location: Cumbria-UK

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No i have never tried to have it exchanged yet as i've never been 100% sure it is the i/face .If nothing had happened everytime i tried to use it though i would have done.

Has the USB tolerence/
i/face leads been made more robust at all on later release versions ,i bought my Reflex before XTR was released as Version 4.0 box .
09-10-2005 12:16 PM
 
 
Micro-Maniac
Elite Veteran
Location: Pasco,Washington Formerly: Captain Chaos

I have encountered and resolved most everything RCFan claimed to be "bugs" by making adjustments to Reflex, my computer, and radio configurations. There are no actual "bugs" in XTR that I have encountered.

#3 on the list:.. I use a seperate model memory on my TX for simming. I setup the channel assignment then open the channel display and begin programming my radio accordingly just like with any other helicopter. All flight modes, throttle hold, end points, gyro gain, everything. When I'm done, everything matches up in the channel display and works beautifully everytime plug my radio in.

#4: Yep, I had to go in and adjust my XTR video settings and DirectX 3D settings to get the performance balance that I desired just like with each of the high end computer games I play such as FarCry.

Similarly, everything on that list can be resolved with patience and knowhow. It's all environmental, not "bugs".

09-10-2005 08:55 PM
 
 
RCfan
Key Veteran
Location: Longwood, FL USA

You haven't resolved any of the problems, you've simply done what all other folks with these problems have had to resort to ... adapt and develop workarounds! Bugs are still there, you've simply masked them away.

Can you describe how you resolved items 1 and 2? How did you get around the problem in #3 automatically assigning throttle/pitch to the wrong channel and how did you calibrate max throw for each one?
09-10-2005 09:21 PM
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Micro-Maniac
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Location: Pasco,Washington Formerly: Captain Chaos

Like I said, these are not "bugs" and Reflex is not the only program that requiers custom configurations to achieve desired performances.

#1. Initiating the sim with negative pitch does seem to start the heli with a bit of momentum somehow even though the altitude is set to 0, but it's not such a chore to neutralize the collective stick to avoid the "collision".

#2. Sorry, I don't have a problem with this. I programmed my radio according to the sim channel display, not the numbers displayed on my radio, and I don't experience any re-scaling of the pitch. My pitch is identical throughout it's range in both idle-up and throttle hold.

#3. I don't do automatic assignment. I go through and assign each channel myself. If anything is wrong, it's my own fault. But nothing is wrong here. If you do use automatic assignment, I'm sure you are not stuck with whatever it assigns. Just reassign what isn't right.

09-10-2005 09:44 PM
 
 
RCfan
Key Veteran
Location: Longwood, FL USA

#1 - yes, the workaround is to remember to have pitch at 0 during sim start (does not simulate reality). Still a nuisance and should be relatively simple to fix in code.

#2 - channel display will not show the re-scaling. The status bar will show the pitch change when changing to hold, and when you're doing inverted autos, you'll notice it. If you re-configure all models with pitch at -8/8 and set min auto pitch to -8, you can workaround the problem. Again unrealistic and should be a relatively simple code change, e.g. allow min-picth during auto same as model min pitch and allow pilot to properly adjust hold pitch curve as in the real world (right now you have to compensate for the offset).

#3- how did you manage to calibrate max throws for the throttle and pitch channels? Even manually assigning these, you still have to tell Reflex what the max throws are ... it doesn't allow you to since when you try it re-detects the wrong channel, i.e. throttle for pitch. Workaround is to muck around with pitch ATVs to reach desired setting (which goes against the Reflex documentation to leave ATVs at 100).
09-10-2005 09:54 PM
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Micro-Maniac
Elite Veteran
Location: Pasco,Washington Formerly: Captain Chaos

#3. That's just what I did. I adjusted my ATVs (EPA) according to the sim channel display so that the channel display showed 100% at the stick's maximum throw or whatever I needed a particular channel's % to be.

I don't think I really read any directions on how to set up the radio to the sim, I just treated the sim like a real heli and programmed everything to do what I wanted. I watched the results in the sim channel display just as if I were watching the servos on a real heli.

09-10-2005 10:00 PM
 
 
RCfan
Key Veteran
Location: Longwood, FL USA

Place yourself in the position of a beginner just starting to learn everything about the hobby; barely any knowledge on how the radio works ... think you can still have pulled all that off then? What do you think a beginner will do when he/she gets to the field and tries to start their heli at mid-stick ('cause that's what the sim taught them to do)? YIKES!
09-10-2005 10:11 PM
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Micro-Maniac
Elite Veteran
Location: Pasco,Washington Formerly: Captain Chaos

Well when I first got the sim I did use a basic 4 channel radio that had no programming to it at all and it worked reasonably well. I don't think channel assignment is so difficult to figure out, and beyond that I had no issues. Pretty much plug and play.

But one of the points Wolfgang used to make was that it teaches you about programming your own radio.

Some things are left to learning outside of the sim. Heli manuals have start up precedures printed in them along with basic radio setup guides (At least mine all have). I don't think theres all that much of a chance that a newb would get all the way to starting his heli without learning about such things.

Besides, beyond the initial start on the sim, it behaves correctly so I'm sure everyone comes to understand the "glitch" pretty quickly.

I do agree with you that it would be nice if it wouldn't do that. I just can't say that it's a "bug" but a somewhat annoyance. But also, If starting the sim in normal mode without the governor it's not an issue.

And another point, if you're using gov mode then you know the sim is going to start with the heli spooled up already so it's only logical that you should have the stick near neutral anyways.

Sorry RCFan, not trying to pick on you, just don't see these things as "bugs" and most if not all these issues go away with proper configuring. I have to defend my beloved XTR you understand .

09-10-2005 10:17 PM
 
 
RCfan
Key Veteran
Location: Longwood, FL USA

The problem is that Reflex doesn't have modes where gov can be controlled on/off (except if you enable both gov and pitch>throttle mix and create your own throttle curves). Perhaps they could set it up similar to how the GV1 enables itself, i.e. only if the RPM is already above a certain value will the governor enable itself. This would eliminate this problem completely since most models are configured to have governor, but wouldn't require enabling the mix setting.

Four-channel radios are simple to setup in Reflex; you don't have the "one input controlling multiple outputs" problem or have worry about any of the other channels.

I agree as well that Reflex is great at making folks learn their radios. Unfortunately most folks are lazy;, and while you, Reflex and I may wish they weren't, we cannot expect others to be like us. Hence you have to make sure that the software can be operated by even the lazy folks and minimize chances of creating any bad habits in the process.
09-10-2005 11:26 PM
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Micro-Maniac
Elite Veteran
Location: Pasco,Washington Formerly: Captain Chaos

Back when I was researching which sim to purchase, I concluded that Reflex was the superior sim, but I was intimidated by it's complexity, I wasn't sure I had a radio that would work with it, and I wasn't sure how to get my hands on it.

I actually decided to go with AFPD instead for it's controller and other features and went to my LHS to have them order it for me when I saw Reflex there sitting in a case. I chose to purchase Reflex and take on the challenge of figuring it out and getting it to work with one of my lame radios for the convenience of walking out of the store with a superior product in hand.

Boy am I glad that little square box was sitting in that case.

09-11-2005 12:02 AM
 
 
RCfan
Key Veteran
Location: Longwood, FL USA

HERE, HERE!!!! And then when you think that all of this was created by a single programmer, it always blows my mind. Stefan Kunde has done an exceptional job developing this sim. It is TOP NOTCH work, even with all these bugs!

Then there's the model editor, icing on the cake. I'm honestly surprised he didn't charge something for that. Hope he eventually finishes the scenery editor as well, what a package that would be. He probably should release that as a separate entity and charge $40-$50 for it.
09-11-2005 12:38 AM
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darkfa8
Key Veteran
Location: Eatontown, NJ, USA

Maybe Microsoft will buy out the makers of Reflex and re-make it like the majority of their other products... flaky, crash-prone and non-recoverable, convoluted and clueless tech support, .. but, it will have skinnable, pretty GUIs, Dolby 5.1 surround sound, bundled with SPAMware, background visulizations and a manual that is as well worded as George W. Bush's speaches.

G3, AFPro and Reflex all have their individual idiosyncrasies and nuances.

If you're competant enough to attempt to fly a helicopter, it seems likely that you'd have enough saviness to understand how to tweak something to operate properly.

Heck, if you're having this much problem dealing with a simulator just wait until you get a real heli. Finickey, touchy, unpredictable, maintenence intensive.. it's like owning a pet.

Now, my wish-list:

1. Improved Tx setup menu with supplied Tx-Profiles for the most popular Tx's on the market and a "universal" Tx profile that gives you a photo image of the Tx, highlighted channel assignments and Tips/Tricks for setting up and programming for optimal control performance.

2. Lesson Modules for basic flight, basic aerobatics and maybe 3D/F3C routines with on-screen Tx controls

3. more detailed descriptions for model/sim parameters and their effectiveness

4. a proof-read Queen's English written website

I haven't had any major operational problems with Reflex. I always practice on John's R90 machine and am using a 9CHP with a model file for the Sim with custom Sub-trim values to get all the main controls to register at 1.50ms response.

My computer is a P4 2.4 overclocked to 3.3GHz with Corsair XMS 550MHz 512mb ram and NVidia GeForce4 MX 440 64mb video card running WinXP Pro...built myself

- Dan G. -
09-12-2005 09:40 PM
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Havoc
Key Veteran
Location: Ky.

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6. Many problems relating to engine physics, e.g. perception of low gravity making models appear to "float" more than real aircraft.


This and the auto pitch limit are the only two really annoying me. I've played with the physics but I can still get away with murder on this sim in vertical stunts.
09-13-2005 12:09 AM
 
 
JoelStolarski
Senior Heliman
Location: Vidalia, GA

Been flying in my tiny front yard, thanks to Reflex.
Also did an unintentional nose in the other day, thanks Reflex, I
was able to save the heli and land nose in. No damage.
So, all I thought I'd add to this thread is maybe it's
complicated and has some quirks, but it
has paid for itself more than once.
09-13-2005 06:41 AM
 
 
LesJ
Heliman
Location: UK

Hi everyone,
SwissKurt
Would it not be possible to have a beginers mode in Reflex (with WELL setup heli/planes for beginers)+ a supplied TX (as G3) that would benefit us beginers, as a simulator is to help us get started out in this hobby and be safer on the road to the real thing?
As it stands anyone who buys Reflex must be commited to buying a TX
and on this road finds that bugs/problems are everywhere. As above this would get everyone started flying around with minimal problems and progress to better things.
G3 stands out for me because it has a stable software, a simulated TX that will do idle ups,thottle hold,dual rates,and heli's for BEGINERS.
I learn't alot with G3 in a short space of time,so I bought a Futaba FF9c super then Reflex XTR. Now I spend 3/4 flying on G3 and 1/4 on trying to setup Reflex/Heli's.I'm getting their.

SwissKurt I do not Know everything so I will ask,and some good person will give a solution in a nice frendly way, I don't go mad when someone submits a problem and makeout a know all
09-13-2005 11:26 PM
 
 
Havoc
Key Veteran
Location: Ky.

"Making things easier won't help here"

Exactly, thats my complaint with the gravity lacking a bit. It is too easy to pull off stunts on Reflex that are affected by gravity more in the real world.
09-14-2005 02:12 AM
 
 
RCfan
Key Veteran
Location: Longwood, FL USA

SwissKurt ... ENOUGH IS ENOUGH! I've tried working with you, tried being cordial and even provided some space for you to be your usually obnoxious self. You sir, unfortunately, are one-minded and as always ... WRONG!

So lets start by getting one thing straight, Wolfgang! May I call you Wolfgang? Of course we know who you are. Doesn't matter what identity you choose to post with, they all come out equally angry and bully as the one you used to attack everyone with in the past ... before your "disappearance", e.g. wsn.

There are two different worlds in this forum. In one world, the one where everyone but Wolfgang lives, there's a great piece of software called Reflex that has some non-serious problems (BUGS) that several customers would rather be without. Then there's the other, population ONE: lonely Wolfgang (aka wsn; aka SwissKurt; aka "who knows how many more identity this SOB has"). In this extremely unpopular, un-insightful and pessimistic world, there is this ideal piece of software called Reflex (which, btw, is the only part of the two worlds that is similar). In this world, Reflex is perfect and cannot be improved any more. Occasionally the cage doors to the second world open to the first allow Wolfgang to visit the popular world and attempt to "provide" stealth support for Reflex. Unfortunately, Wolfgang provides nothing but negativity to anyone merely hinting of a problem with Reflex.

Wolfgang, aka SwissKurt, do Reflex a HUGE favor and QUIT your job/position with that company. You are really hurting the product with your constant anger and negativity. Sometimes it almost seems as if you don't want folks to own the simulator simply so they don't bother you with their problems. I hope Stefan reads this forum and realizes once and for all the disservice you're making while supposedly attempting to move your product forward.

Thanks for everyone's patience and I'm really sorry this has become nothing but a peeve.
09-14-2005 02:29 AM
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