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e-Hirobo SRB Quark - Lepton - XRB Coaxial > For all you XRB newbies out there...
 
 
rdlohr
Key Veteran
Location: Pittsfield. MA USA

These are the words I wish I would have read when I first got my XRB...
This assumes you are an inexperienced heli pilot.

Don't let anyone kid you, learning to fly a heli without crashing is not easy and takes many hours of practice (don't worry, you'll have a blast in the process). The XRB is a great heli to learn on.

Laminate your blades with 3M brown packing tape...NOW. You WILL crash regardless, and you WILL destroy your blades otherwise. After putting on the tape, it is incredible how many crashes you will simply pick up and go from with no real damage. I prefer the 3M brown over the white reinforced packing tape because it is much lighter, easier to work with, and does not shorten your flight times. You can even laminate a second time. I never tried a third time, but maybe...

Once you lift off, plan on constant small adjustments on both controls to sustain a hover. For every adjustment you make, you will most likely need a small opposite adjustment to compensate for it . Realize that turning does typically cause you to lose a little height so compensate for it by hitting the throttle. If you start to get disoriented, let go of the right control. If everything is adjusted properly, this should shift the heli back to a somewhat controlled hover for enough time for you to recover. If all else fails and you are going to crash the blades into something, power down quick so you don't beat them up too bad in the process. If the blades are laminated, they will survive.

When flying in the house in a relatively small area, say 12 X 12, your own rotor wash will push you around quite a bit. Get used to it, hands off hover for any length of time in a small area is not in the cards. In a larger area you should eventually have no problem doing a hands off hover for 10 or 20 seconds.

After you get decent at hovering in the house, (maybe 5 to 10 flights), fly outside as often as you can. You need the space to learn maneuvering. There must be practically no wind so just before dark is often a good time. If you can find a pinwheel, mount it outside so you can tell when there is no wind. My wife uses them in her garden to chase out squirrels. The one mounted up about six feet high is the one I count on. When its not spinning, its OK to fly.

Take off and land on a flat area like a patio, or piece of cardboard instead of grass. You get more consistent lift and grass often grabs the skids and tips you.

Since it is somewhat difficult just after you have learned to hover to control the heli when it's nose isn't oriented straight away from you, follow the heli around your yard always keeping it in front of you. This will help you get the hang of forward movement without the disorientation of lots of turns. As you do this you will end up doing some big sweeping turns but if you turn the wrong way you will see what is happening and be able to correct without the consequences of being at the edge of your yard right next to houses, bushes, fences and other things that like to jump out and grab a heli out of the sky.

The garage is also a great place to fly. It's big enough to learn control and there is no wind to contend with. Circles and figure eights are great ways to help you think like a heli.

If your tail breaks off (which it probably will), remove the front canopy and the heli will balance fine. Fly this stripped down heli until you become a heliman (30 to 40 flights or so).

Oil your heli every 10-15 flights, and make sure to do all the recommended adjustments in the manual. Consider buying heat sinks for the motors if you fly for more than about 10 minutes non-stop.

Buy a spare battery from Ricky Blaze and you will double your flight time.

After you have mastered flying this little guy, then go out and buy a new tail and build a pretty machine that looks nice while you are flying it.

Oh yea, and last but not least, read as many posts as you can on this and other heli forums. There is a wealth of knowledge from people who are really good at this, and very willing to help you out. Search for key words like “laminate” and “lube” for directions on how to do these things.

Hope this helps you out...


Warning: This hobby is highly addictive and hazardous to your wallet! This addiction is more than likely incurable and it is recommended that you consider quitting now while you still have a choice!


Update 1/31/06: Should have heeded my own warning. I've since bought two additional helis, a Blade CP and a TREX SE and there is no end in sight! On top of that I've infected my brother-in-law, the copterklutz, and now he is addicted with an XRB and a Corona. Get out now while you still have a chance! Once it gets you there is no way out!

Update 6/19/07: Both Copterklutz and I have added TREX 600s to our fleets. Bigger is better. Much more stable. Both the TREX 450 and 600 are a blast to learn on. The addiction continues!

Rick


-#-> Still Flyin, crashin and lovin it!
08-14-2005 Over year old.
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rdlohr
Key Veteran
Location: Pittsfield. MA USA

By the way, leave me a note if this helped you. If I'm on the right track here I will expand it later when I have more hours on this little beastie.


-#-> Still Flyin, crashin and lovin it!
08-17-2005 Over year old.
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AGRAV8
rrProfessor
Location: Mosquito Coast......Houston Texas

good stuff

yep, just got one in......and I'm gonna have FUN !!!!!!!!
08-17-2005 Over year old.
 
 
rdlohr
Key Veteran
Location: Pittsfield. MA USA

You gotta love it!


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08-17-2005 Over year old.
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WOS
Heliman
Location: NW INDIANA

Got mine working and fly it at work in the garage. YOU GOTTA LOVE THIS MACHINE!
Keep it at work and fly in the garage. I GET ABSOLUTELY NO WORK DONE!

Still learning to fly
08-18-2005 Over year old.
 
 
rdlohr
Key Veteran
Location: Pittsfield. MA USA

Sounds like a perfect place to do it. I'm jealous!


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08-18-2005 Over year old.
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rdlohr
Key Veteran
Location: Pittsfield. MA USA

{Edited out this post and moved to top}


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08-20-2005 Over year old.
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rdlohr
Key Veteran
Location: Pittsfield. MA USA

Oh, I almost forgot. The coolest thing happened. While I was hovering around in my back yard, a humming bird buzzed the heli 4 times. I think he thought it was another humming bird. You gotta love it!


-#-> Still Flyin, crashin and lovin it!
08-20-2005 Over year old.
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I_like_to_crash
Senior Heliman
Location: Groton, CT USA

Hehe, watch out for large bugs at dusk time....they seem to be attracted to the white disk...I have crashed atleast 2 times from the blades striking fairly large bugs.

I perform precision manuevers called crashes.
08-20-2005 Over year old.
 
 
rdlohr
Key Veteran
Location: Pittsfield. MA USA

Speaking of crashing, I had a spectacular crash into my Flowering Pear tree going full tilt... Poor little guy fell branch to branch while thrashing a bit then hit the ground. I expected maximum carnage. The laminated blades are incredible. I picked it up, bent the blades back as straight as I could, and continued to fly. This little heli is way too much fun and forgiving to boot!


-#-> Still Flyin, crashin and lovin it!
08-24-2005 Over year old.
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crux12
Senior Heliman
Location: Minneapolis

took a radio hit the other night and heli went full power, of course it was outside when this happened. I thought we'll thats gone, but luckly the power cut out nearly 100ft up. Well the little XRB went from a fun flying machine to rock in the blink of an eye. Thing smacked the concrete with a horific smack. Don't know if I'll rebuild it at this point, but it was interesting to see happen.
08-25-2005 Over year old.
 
 
Flyflie
Heliman
Location: Boston, MA

Fly time

I just got one of these, it came with a 750 mah 2 cell li-po, I ve noticed the fly time is very short. Has anyone changed the li-po to a larger capacity like 1,800mah? I wonder if it will take off with that more weight.
what are ur average fly times, I get about 4 mins of hover..
08-25-2005 Over year old.
 
 
Flyflie
Heliman
Location: Boston, MA

Question

when the heli takes off tends to go backwards i have trimmed the radio all the way up to compensate but its not enough, how would i compensate with the lower rotor adjustment? I tried to follow the instructions online but i just can't figure it out.
Thanks
08-25-2005 Over year old.
 
 
I_like_to_crash
Senior Heliman
Location: Groton, CT USA

Flyflie.....4 minutes of hover is not right. You should get between 15-20 minutes of flight time. About the thing moving backwards...is the battery moved all the way forewards in the battery holster? If not it will tend to move backwards a bit. If you were to move to a larger capacity battery im sure it would have a harder time getting off the ground and it would burn out the motors fast if you dont give it time to rest.

I perform precision manuevers called crashes.
08-25-2005 Over year old.
 
 
rdlohr
Key Veteran
Location: Pittsfield. MA USA

If the battery thing is not the solution, there are coarser trim screws right on the heli that should take care of it. Also, don't fly with the canopy off unless your tail is missing or it won't balance correctly.

Ditto on the 15-20 minute flight time. Something is dead wrong if you only get 4.


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09-01-2005 Over year old.
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rdlohr
Key Veteran
Location: Pittsfield. MA USA

crux12: Sorry to hear about the major mishap. What did you end up doing?


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10-06-2005 Over year old.
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rickyblaze
Senior Heliman
Location: Bloomington Indiana

Here's a link to the lamination guide I did a few months back. Use whatever tape you want. http://runryder.com/helicopter/t148848p1/

Rick
10-07-2005 Over year old.
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rdlohr
Key Veteran
Location: Pittsfield. MA USA

Exactly. I used your guide with 3M brown tape! Works like a charm.


-#-> Still Flyin, crashin and lovin it!
10-08-2005 Over year old.
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vrex
Senior Heliman
Location: Denver Co

Motor/battery break-in

Was wondering if I should break in the motors and the battery. If so what are the accepted recommendations
Thanks
10-08-2005 Over year old.
 
 
rdlohr
Key Veteran
Location: Pittsfield. MA USA

I have no real answer to this. No one has ever mentioned that break-in is needed for either the batteries or motors to my knowledge. I've heard a lot of talk about motors heating, but MRC told me that I shouldn't even be worried about that for a typical 15-20 minute flight.


-#-> Still Flyin, crashin and lovin it!
10-10-2005 Over year old.
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