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Kristjan
Senior Heliman
Location: Estonia, Tallinn

Read the info and register.

I did.

http://www.x-cad.net

K.
07-19-2005 Over year old.
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Professorwiz
Veteran
Location: Livonia, Michigan - USA

What a joke, they made their 100,000 here's there answer to everything. You have to keep connected to the internet when you use it or pay a fee, there is also scrolling spam... Here's their letter...

Hi ,
Thanks to your participation in the X-CAD 100,000 Seat Giveaway we have reached the goal of 100,000 registrations early!

Some of you may not have heard, we announced on Wednesday that Alibre is the company behind X-CAD and X-CAD is Alibre Design Xpress, the newest member of the Alibre Design product family.

As of August 1, Alibre Design Xpress will be available to all for free. But, as one of the first 100,000 to register, you're getting a little more.

For you Alibre Design Xpress will include all the features listed on the new Alibre Design Xpress site, plus:

Advanced part modeling, which includes features like shelling, 3D sketch, reference surfaces, etc. View the Alibre Design brochure on our web site for the full part modeling feature set.

Create and edit assemblies with up to 25 unique parts. You can open an assembly with more parts in read-only mode.

Create 2D drawings with standard orthographic views. All drawings are fully associative: you change the model and the drawing updates.

3D import/export of all the standard formats Alibre Design supports, including STEP, SAT (ACIS), and IGES. DXF and DWG are supported in 2D, and STL is supported for export.
All free versions of Alibre Design Xpress require an Internet connection and will display a banner of Google ads through a built-in web page. No third-party adware is installed on your system. If your Internet connection is lost we have taken steps to ensure that you can save your work. The Internet connection requirement can be turned off for a small fee.

On August 1, you will receive instructions on how to download the software. We had hoped to release it to you sooner, but given the nature of software development, we are in the final stages of quality testing. At this time we expect all to be ready for the August 1 release.

This is truly the best offer for parametric 3D CAD software available anywhere. When you get the download instructions, please complete the steps to download and install Alibre Design Xpress right away. The special offer you get as one of the first 100,000 expires on August 31, don't delay.

If you are no longer interested in Alibre Design Xpress and would like to be removed from all future email communications and eligibility for the extra features offered to the first 100,000 registrants, you may Unsubscribe here.

This isn't the end, there will be additional valuable incentives for engaging with us over time, so I encourage you to stay opted in to our email communications and participate in the short surveys and contests. We won't abuse your email address, we stand by our privacy policy and if you opt out, we won't send you messages.

Best Regards,
Greg Milliken
President and CEO

My best bet is to not even install this junk..
07-23-2005 Over year old.
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Saint728
Elite Veteran
Location: Sydney Australia Sponsored by: Quick UK

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You have to keep connected to the internet when you use it or pay a fee, there is also scrolling spam...


No problem there, I'm always connected to the internet.

Take Care,
Cheers, Patrick

MA Fury Extreme,YS 91,MPII,V-Blades,601
Raptor 50 SE,OS50 Hyper,MPII,QUK Head,TT600 Blades,601
07-23-2005 Over year old.
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Professorwiz
Veteran
Location: Livonia, Michigan - USA

I am also, but it makes me wonder what it's sending back and forth..
07-23-2005 Over year old.
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OT45
Senior Heliman
Location: Kingston, NY

I seriously doubt that any design professional will feel safe using this product while connected to the internet. For the hobbyist it might be a good resource? I wonder what the "small fee" is to turn off the internet requirement? I guess we will find out...LOL

scratch building is not just for planks
07-24-2005 Over year old.
 
 
garryj
Heliman
Location: Bellevue, WA

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I seriously doubt that any design professional will feel safe using this product while connected to the internet. For the hobbyist it might be a good resource? I wonder what the "small fee" is to turn off the internet requirement? I guess we will find out...LOL


As do I, but the Alibre software itself is for real. I'd hazard a guess that any company that uses this type of software to generate real revenue would rather deal directly with a company during their evaluation period, and Alibre certainly offers that with their "real" products. But if some of their employees have used Alibre Express at home and like what they see, who knows what could happen?

I'd also hazard a guess that the non-professional world is a HUGE market that has remained relatively untapped, and I do think that this (albeit "gimmicky") effort is a real boon to "the rest of us" that would like a taste of the parametric 3D solid modeler world, and maybe actually get something that's useful out of the bargain. If anyone expected something that matches SolidWorks or Inventor feature for feature and still is free, they should keep looking (if they did expect that, I have a bridge I'd like to sell them ).

I'm an R/C heli enthusiast that is also a "hobbyist machinst" (probably just like a whole bunch of folks on this forum!), and a while back, I was looking for a parametric 3D solid modeler package that was not a joke that fit my $1,000 budget, which is a joke in the 3D solid modeler world

I spent several months evaluating all the "trialware" that I could get my hands on, and settled on Alibre's "Basic" package, which at the time, was $795, and I have been very satisfied with my purchase. Alibre Express looks to have the most-used basic features, and it appears that the 100,000 that registered will get these "bonus" features:

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Advanced part modeling, which includes features like shelling, 3D sketch, reference surfaces, etc. View the Alibre Design brochure on our web site for the full part modeling feature set.

Create and edit assemblies with up to 25 unique parts. You can open an assembly with more parts in read-only mode.

Create 2D drawings with standard orthographic views. All drawings are fully associative: you change the model and the drawing updates.

3D import/export of all the standard formats Alibre Design supports, including STEP, SAT (ACIS), and IGES. DXF and DWG are supported in 2D, and STL is supported for export.


I take from this that the "regular" Alibre Express will be limited in its file import/export functionality and may not have 2D associativity. And, IMO, the part limit on assemblies will be one of the most limiting factors. But, how much should a reasonable person expect from something that's "free", even given the adware baggage? In the past, I have used PTC's "Pro Desktop Express", which was their un-advertised "free" trial/learning solid modeling package, but it was buggy as all get-out, no import/export capability at all, and the file format you did have was only compatible with Pro Desktop Express, and not any of their other "commercial" products. Alibre Express looks like it uses the same native file format as its "big brothers". Compared to that, Alibre Express looks like it will be a bargain, even if it was twice the price

Here are several examples of what I was able to cobble up in Alibre Design Basic, and I consider myself a rank amateur. I think something like the tailbox should be completely do-able in Alibre Express. The other pics are assemblies that have more than 25 parts, but again, I don't think I used any feature tools to do the individual parts that Alibre Express doesn't have.

I am one of the 100,000 registered (after I found out that it was probably Alibre that was behind X-CAD), and do plan on installing Alibre Express on a second PC to compare it to the "full" (though most minimal) package that I purchased from them. My experience with Alibre as a company has been good, but I guess time will tell on their Alibre Express venture. I do hope it works out well in the end, though the start has sure been a bit rocky...



garryj
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07-25-2005 Over year old.
 
 
garryj
Heliman
Location: Bellevue, WA

forgot to mention that the adware "buy out" is apparently $49. If that also got you the "extras" that the first 100,000 registered are supposed to get, IMO it would then be a bargain.

garryj
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07-25-2005 Over year old.
 
 
OT45
Senior Heliman
Location: Kingston, NY

Thanks for sharing garryj. Nice CAD work BTW. Did you have prior solid modeling experience before working with Alibre Design Basic?

scratch building is not just for planks
07-26-2005 Over year old.
 
 
Professorwiz
Veteran
Location: Livonia, Michigan - USA

$49 isn't bad. I suppose I'd pay that if I find the software ok. I know BobCad has a pretty good price for theirs if you tell them you are a hobbiest. I think they quoted me around $300, and that's a cad/cam package.
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garryj
Heliman
Location: Bellevue, WA

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Thanks for sharing garryj. Nice CAD work BTW. Did you have prior solid modeling experience before working with Alibre Design Basic?


Thanks! I had used PTC's "Pro Desktop Express" prior to this, and that gave me a foundation that shortened the learning curve a bit. Alibre has a fairly decent set of online tutorials that covered the basics. Don't know if they are a part of Alibre Express, though, but I'd think at least some of it should be there.

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$49 isn't bad. I suppose I'd pay that if I find the software ok. I know BobCad has a pretty good price for theirs if you tell them you are a hobbiest. I think they quoted me around $300, and that's a cad/cam package.


I'm not real familiar with BobCad, but I do know that it's NOT parametric-based solids CAD. If I recollect, it's a vector-based system, where you wireframe, and then surface. Not the same thing at all.

With Alibre and other solid modeling systems, the parts all have a volume and mass, along with a multitude of other data that defines the part. From what I've read, Alibre Express will include the "Measure" tool that will let you check distance, angle, size and position of any geometry of a part, and the "Physical Properties" tool, which, among lots of other things, calculates volume and mass. So I can define a part as having the density of 6061-T6 aluminum alloy (2.7 grams per cubic centimeter), and it will give me an estimate of what the part weight will be. If you're into mechanical modeling, this is pretty cool stuff, and it's these kinds of features that set parametric solid modeling CAD apart from vector/surface based CAD systems.

Anyway, at the least, IMO Alibre Express will give a lot of folks the opportunity to find this stuff out for themselves, and I think that's pretty neat

garryj
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07-26-2005 Over year old.
 
 
Professorwiz
Veteran
Location: Livonia, Michigan - USA

Any news when we will be able to download and try it out?
07-26-2005 Over year old.
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garryj
Heliman
Location: Bellevue, WA

It's supposed to be available August 1.

garryj
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07-26-2005 Over year old.
 
 
human213
Senior Heliman
Location: malibu

...xcad...

...add spyware, multiple types, to benefits fo this wonderful program...


M
07-29-2005 Over year old.
 
 
Kristjan
Senior Heliman
Location: Estonia, Tallinn

1. of August

I got the "ready to download" mail.
Everyone needs to activate their account.
There seemes to be a problem with mine.

It says that an account with my email address already exists...
And the "I need my registration information. Please resend it to me." function also isn`t working.

I`m waiting their support team to answer the mail I sent.

Anyone else??

K.
08-01-2005 Over year old.
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RCfan
Key Veteran
Location: Longwood, FL USA

I got a copy ... works okay. Keeps an HTTP session open getting ads and sending some local app info. Now I have to learn to CAD.
08-01-2005 Over year old.
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Pole
Senior Heliman
Location: Norway

So i got one too.... been playing around with it a bit... but i can`t say i like it... all ready found one bugg... but it`s free and if you take your time to go throug the torturials i think it will work ok... but i think i`ll stick to Solide Edge and the ads drives me nutts... hehe..

But it`s funny to play around with....



Stay tuned fore more happy days
08-01-2005 Over year old.
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policerescue620
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Location: las vegas, nevada



adding a breath of fresh air daily...!!!
09-10-2005 Over year old.
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aeropuppy
Senior Heliman
Location: Seattle

I just downloaded a copy however it does not seem to work as the drawing field is greyed out and drawing tools won't work.
11-04-2005 Over year old.
 
 
aeropuppy
Senior Heliman
Location: Seattle

Also, it shows offline - (I do have a good internet connection).
The free version needs to be online to work I assume?
11-04-2005 Over year old.
 
 
CAD-User
New Heliman
Location: Sindelfingen;BW-Germ any

FREE 3D CAD CoCreate OneSpace Modeling Personal Edition (PE)

Talking of free 3D CAD.
I happend to find this free 3D CAD Tool named CoCreate OneSpace Modeling Personal Edition.

Check it out by yourself. It's completely free and even I managed to easily build my first Models.

http://www.cocreate.com/free

Best Regards,

>CAD-User
08-15-2007 Over year old.
 
 
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