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Engines Plugs Mufflers Fuel > Wildcat fuel???????????
 
 
CCoker
Senior Heliman
Location: Atlanta,GA

Fuel

What about the 25%CP Has anyone ever used it for any amount of time? I ran about 3gals of it "ran strong and about the same smoke as 15%" but all the talk about oils%s made me go back to the 15%.

Does anyone know the specs on CO25%?
08-31-2001 Over year old.
 
 
Fourbits
Heliman
Location:

The Morgan (Coolpower) fuels use a heavier oil in the Heli fuels to help with the higher temperatures and high RPM in a heli engine.

09-08-2001 Over year old.
 
 
z11355
rrMaster
Location: 10000 is enough time wasted.

It's interesting you say that. I believe that they in fact use
a low viscosity oil in their 12.5 & 30. Those oils are just
a totally different type & quality of oil vs. the pedestrian
stuff they use in 15.
09-10-2001 Over year old.
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Jetset
Senior Heliman
Location: Picton, Ontario Canada

Heli fuel difference

This is a very interesting thread!
Why is there a difference between heli fuel and plane fuel? I have notice that heli fliers use some pretty high nitro but other than that, what is the difference? Is the oil content different than plane fuel as well?
Thanks,
Myles





Howzitgoin' eh? Goin' fast in the "Great White North"
10-19-2001 Over year old.
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vetrider
Elite Veteran
Location: Daleville, AL (Ft.Rucker)

I have to agree with MitchD on "the stuff is top shelf and it works and they're a good company thats been around for a long time,and contributes immensely to the hobby ......"

I live about 8 miles from Morgans Fuels and I met Mr. Morgan and the "boys" back in 1979 but I can't say that I know any of them well as I got out of the hobby in 1980. I do know that there were several "local" hobbyists that burned up lots of their own glow engines testing fuel for Mr. Morgan in the early 70's. He always gave them free fuel till he passed away. Too bad Fred didn't see fit to continue. (just had to vent a little there, sorry).

I use their fuel and plan to continue using it. Omega 15% is what I plan on using on my heli’s. It has not let me down in my cars (.12, .15, .21). They screeeeeem and don't get the cooling that heli’s and planes do. Omega has 18% oil content. More than enough.

The reason 30 % give you more power is the cooling effect it has. Cold dense air packs heavier into a combustion chamber area, thus more combustion on ignition. Nitro is like an "Intercooler" for glow engines. I'm No chemical engineer but I was told this by one. If anyone cares to add please do but be nice, I don't know if the guy was ****-ing me or not!!!

http://www.morganfuel.com/modelfuel.htm

Magnum Fuel
10-22-2001 Over year old.
 
 
Dragon2115
Key Veteran
Location: New England

Morgan Fuel

vetrider,

Nobody is questioning the quality of Morgan fuels. It was pointed out that Wildcat also makes a good 30% fuel as well. What was being questioned however was their business practice of taking identical fuel, putting a "heli" sticker on one of them, and then charging a buck more for it. That's right, CP15 airplane and CP15 heli are the same fuel except the heli cost $1 more. That borders on, if not actually is, consumer fraud.

Is Steve Morgan a nice guy? Sure, I've dealt with him on a couple of occassions and he was great. He took the time to try and work through a problem I was having and I appreciate his effort. But does that change any of the above? I don't think so and that is what was at issue over Morgan Fuels.

Mitch is pitching the support you LHS which is fine, but I'm not going to fork over hard earned money so some distributor can pork me. Why should I pay $130 + tax for SAB 680 blades from an LHS when I can buy them for $79 + $15 s&h elsewhere in the world. And that's on one set of blades at a time. Obviously shipping cost per set goes down with multiple sets ordered at once. So I save $36 minimum on each set of blades. Depending on what you're buying that can add up fast.

Why can a hobby shop in Hawaii be able to under sell all other hobby shops in the continental U.S.? Because the distributor into the continental U.S., and/or the LHS is being greedy that's why. Everybody knows there is a hellatious markup on hobby products. The foriegn dealers are willing to take less markup in favor of more volume. Until our distributors do the same they will continue to lose business. The guy that pays in the end is the LHS owner because they're slave to their distributors pricing and therefore can't compete and are the first to feel it.

Dragon
10-23-2001 Over year old.
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vetrider
Elite Veteran
Location: Daleville, AL (Ft.Rucker)

Yep Dragon,
I agree on not caving in to crazy markups. In my area there is one LHS's that is in the mall and his fuels (all of them) is always $2 to $3 dollers higher than other LHS. Overhead sucks, but I won't hesitate to buy on the net. Matter of fact........ I do buy too much on the net!!

Mr. Morgan passed away about 5 years ago and from what I've heard he was a lot better to deal with than Fred. Some say he's still better even NOW!!! His sons still own the business and one is a Lawer locally.

I don't like pricing like you've mentioned. I feel it is just a ripoff to good folks trying to enjoy a great hobby that is expensive enough!

I like that Hawaii Hobby shop too. They just got another $175.00 from me last night

In my earlier reply I was responding to most of the postings and not just Jetsets. Sorry if I got off track too much though.

Magnum Fuel
10-23-2001 Over year old.
 
 
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