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e-Electric General Discussion > Quick review of the Walkera #35 (Z400)
 
 
jknoell
Senior Heliman
Location:

I have no idea how long it lasts... So far I haven't burned out the main motor anyway. The stock battery is worthless - I've got one unidentifiable brand 1800mAh LiPo battery, and a 2100mAh LiPo Thunder Power. That reminded me - gotta change the review again, when I took out the motor I found that it is indeed a 400... gah.
05-20-2005 Over year old.
 
 
apachedave
Heliman
Location: Fort Irwin, CA

Would like to use my T6XHS radio with my new Walkera 35

Who's smart on radios?

I am used to flying .30 size helis, but am not currently deployed overseas in Afghanistan, so space (in a hangar) and fuel are issues. Electric minis seem to be the way to go. I had some coworkers that bought Wlakers 35s and after flying the, I had to buy one. I did bring over from home a Futaba T6XHS radio. Does anybody knw if the radio that comes with the Walkera is single or dual conversion? I requested from HobbyJapan2000.com a Walkera on 72.550 (ch 38), but got 72.870 (Ch. 54) instead. Is it possible to pull out the tramsitter crystal from the Walkera transmitter and just use it in my T6XHS? Right now, the stock radio will not allow autorotations or really fine tuning that I am used to doing.

Or is a better move to get a Ch. 38 receiver crystal (left them back in Germany) and place that into the Walkera receiver? I would like to think that I can find a way to autorotate without buying a new receiver and speed control.
05-21-2005 Over year old.
 
 
jknoell
Senior Heliman
Location:

I think (!) the stock radio is plain old cheap FM. I've heard a few people try getting their TX to work with it and have yet to hear from anyone succeeding at it.

If you replace the RX though, you'll also need a speed controller. That stock Walkera RX has it all built into one unit (which is why it gets rather hot during flight). Thus: If you replace the RX I'd pretty much suggest that you just go all the way and replace at least the servos, gyro and ESC too.

Replacing the crystals _may_ work, but I have no experience with HF electronics so I can't say for sure.
05-23-2005 Over year old.
 
 
libertycat
Heliman
Location: FRANCE

Jknoell,

at last, a full set of informations.. so precious !!!
I was in contact with other member NY_in_ND and I not deceived to read just the first post there !!
just one thing I worry, I used my helico, and as soon as I had it, it seems there is no any Mix with throttle up . .. I need to turn positive pitch to blades with the PZT pot, andd after give gas with left stick (MODE2) to fly . . .
But if I would not give any pitch with PZT pot, there would not be any pitch even going far with throttle stick and hight rotor speed.
so I would dream to know what to do for having at last this MIX . . .May someone help here ? Please ? ?
As I was a bit upset, I tryed to move the switch N°8, and you know, switch on or switch off... I did not saw ANY diference. ... Nothing locked / nothing unlocked in any case... Just no mix anyway...
Please, help.. I am flying in my mind for now...
05-24-2005 Over year old.
 
 
jknoell
Senior Heliman
Location:

Oooke, lets see. First, for testing collective control unplug the motor from the RX. Then check switch #8 on the back, it should be ON by default, and OFF to mess with the knobs. Leave it off since you already messed with the knobs.

Now turn the TX and your heli on (in this order). First thing that happens is some servo chatter, which is normal. They should settle after at most 20 seconds or so. Check that the pitch/yaw servos work (in mode 2: right stick). Now check the collective servo. It's located under the main gear. In normal mode (top right switch on "N") it should NOT move until about half stick. During that time it should stay pretty much horizontal.

Now as you move the stick up further, the servo arm should push up. Try messing with the PZT/PLT knobs to see how they work. The ideal for a beginner would be to limit the maximum travel a bit, but in your case set it so that the travel is maximum. Later you may want to consider limiting it a bit, since it's easier to learn if the controls are less sensitive.

Now bring the throttle all the way down, and flip the top right switch to "1" - good thing you unplugged the motor first, isn't it?

Again, look at the collective servo. Play around with the PZT/PLT knobs to see how they affect the servo travel. Adjust the knobs to give you maximum travel there.

In case you wonder why the servo twitches while you do that: I HAVE NO IDEA It seems to "flutter" a bit while the motor is unplugged, but seems ok while plugged in.

If this still doesn't help you, let me know and I'll record a video of what I'm talking about
05-24-2005 Over year old.
 
 
mobywho
Senior Heliman
Location: Duluth, GA

jknoell,

Thanks for sharing your info and experience with us on the open forum rather then putting it in a book and Ebay it. Just order mine after reading your review sure hope I have as much fun with it as you are with your.
05-25-2005 Over year old.
 
 
jknoell
Senior Heliman
Location:

Thanks mobywho I'll try to keep the information updated as much as I can, but without putting in information which can be found in other places (like how to set up blade pitch and so on)... I'm just not sure how much information people would like to see in a single post. It just keeps getting bigger and bigger

And I need to post more videos.
05-25-2005 Over year old.
 
 
libertycat
Heliman
Location: FRANCE

great thanks jknoell !!
really, and right that it is really nice from you to spend your time and energy to help everyone there ..!

ny_in_nd was right, and I thanks him too for the advices he gave me too by email. .

Sure I'll try like you recommended me this evening.. and sure I'll have other questions ! I am so curious, and always want to know all about what I have !
REGARDS !

Stephane.
05-25-2005 Over year old.
 
 
libertycat
Heliman
Location: FRANCE

I was also wondering all last evening & night : is it possible to program other curve of mix on this dragonfly devices ?
if mine not working ?
05-25-2005 Over year old.
 
 
libertycat
Heliman
Location: FRANCE

again.. sorry : I really guess that when I'll do this checking process you described me, jknoell, I really guess I'll not hear any servo moving during I'll give gas throttle....
just because my actual problem, is that I not having any mix...
but it will permit me to see if there is a bit of reaction from servos.. or really not at all and it will confirm me anyway. . ;-/
05-25-2005 Over year old.
 
 
libertycat
Heliman
Location: FRANCE

here is one answer from rc-expert.com about my question for PLT and PZT use.. :
"
re you referring to the ones at the top two sides of the transmitter.

If so, They are used for the guidance from an experienced RC operator who
has another transmitter to control the same helicopter.

Any further queries, please contact us.
"

I guess I'd better cry instead of contacting them sometimes . . . . .
05-25-2005 Over year old.
 
 
n2lry
Heliman
Location: Union County NJ

Help need tail input gear for walkera 35.

I need the tail input gear asap, all parts stores are running slow on re-supply. Does anyone have the HM035-015 tail input gear they could spare? I have received the replacement parts for the Zoom/Shogun 400 but they are not the same and I have been grounded for over 2-weeks now..

Sincerely,
Allan
05-25-2005 Over year old.
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libertycat
Heliman
Location: FRANCE

ok.
All checked during my lunchtime..
unplugged all motors, and yes, there is pitch but a bit too far from the middle way of gas stick. . .

and I understood better how are these both hell pot settings working !!

thanks to all there, and sorry for the lot of messages from me. . :-/

all not seem to work, is this switch #8 that does not lock anything. .. .

or maybe I missunderstood what it needed to lock. .. anyway, locked or not, I can change the PZT&PLT settings as well . . . ..
05-25-2005 Over year old.
 
 
libertycat
Heliman
Location: FRANCE

and about spare parts..; just for the tail rotor shaft, it was hard to find, and even seller of my DF40 hasn't it in stock . ..
and when I found other websites, prices go from 1.80 USD to 12 USD each unit !! for small plastic pin !!!
I guess I'll buy plastic manufacture for my own business.. .!

for now, I flighing with wood stick for cleaning teeth (or taking olivers for aperitive, like you want) as main rotor shaft, and it is exact size and works perfectly ! (not more fragile than the original plastic one anyway).

I'll send photo if you need ! ;-)
05-25-2005 Over year old.
 
 
libertycat
Heliman
Location: FRANCE

n2lry..

you tried this ? :
http://www.hobbyjapan2000.com/store...?prod=HM035-015

one of the only ones that shows these DF spare parts !!
is it this one not good supplyer ?
05-25-2005 Over year old.
 
 
libertycat
Heliman
Location: FRANCE

n2lry... I guess you will find your wish there for now :

http://search.ebay.fr/HM035-015_W0Q...QfsopZ1QQfsooZ1

if this link is not working, say me.
2 different supplyer, from 5 to 8 euros per unit (gear for tail rotor "35)
05-25-2005 Over year old.
 
 
libertycat
Heliman
Location: FRANCE

not working... so :

http://cgi.ebay.fr/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...ssPageName=WD1V
05-25-2005 Over year old.
 
 
Rogersresort
Veteran
Location: Algonac MI

Thanks for the parts source. I stripped the 015 gear yesterday, I have a spare ,but someone said the blue shogun gears work and than another says no. I have to take my Z400 apart and use the blue lock tight on the screws and reassemble it to make it right. I'm waiting on a main pinion gear for my brushless motor so I can do the job in one shot. Can anyone give me a refference point on the sensitivity screw of the gyro, mine is at 10 o'clock a little past half way.

Thanks
05-25-2005 Over year old.
 
 
jknoell
Senior Heliman
Location:

Replacement parts...

The stock shogun input gear (white plastic thing) works. The blue replacement gear I _think_ works, but there is at least one which is meant to be used with a hex shaft (which is a shogun upgrade part as far as I understand).

Just beware of the tail gear set: The stock shogun tail gear uses a crown gear there, whereas the #35 uses a bevelled gear. The bevelled gear set is available as a shogun upgrade, but I haven't tried if they are compatible.

Parts which I know are compatible:
- Blades (all of them)
- Blade grips
- Feathering shaft
- Paddles & connecting bar
- Stock shogun tail input gear (upgrade gears don't always seem to be compatible)

If you strip the input gear often, check the mesh. If it is too tight, the motor will draw more amps and your flight time goes down drastically. If it is too lose, you'll strip the gear in no time at all. I'd recommend some grease (make sure it's good for use on plastic gears). I use silicone lube on the tail input gear and the crown gears, seems to work perfectly.

Libertycat: I'll see that I get a video of how my range is set during lunch break in a few hours.
05-25-2005 Over year old.
 
 
libertycat
Heliman
Location: FRANCE

great thanks jknoell..

I just was wondering several other matters.. :
why from origin on my DF#40 the receiver (603) is on the tail.. and not at it's place, that remains empty in the nose of the Helico . ..
it is a bit stupid way... no ?
05-25-2005 Over year old.
 
 
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