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Radio - Servo - Gyro - Gov - Batt > First Flight Impressions of the 14MZ
 
 
Chuckie
Key Veteran
Location: Crofton Maryland, MHA member

I wrote this for a friend of mine but wanted to share with the other RR crew.

You really need to fly the 14MZ to feel the big difference it has over the 9Z. It’s more than the 2048 resolution but also the 40 percent increase in response that makes it a better radio. The speed of the digital servos is now being utilized by the 14mz. Here are some first flight observations from my trip to Birmingham, Alabama, this past weekend.

Control inputs are faster and more precise, resulting in the pilot not having to move the sticks as much. As I fly smooth and precise the amount of time I spend thinking of making corrections is far less than before. Now when I do make a correction I don't need to move the stick as much as the model is commanded sooner and faster. Again, less stick corrections as the faster datalink and servo speed keep up with the slightest corrections. I'm now just putting in very little inputs to keep the model were I want and spending more time thinking about where I want to go and what's next. I'm also flying more comfortable down low as the speed of my commands and corrections by the model are so fast that I know I can get out of trouble quicker.

With the 9z the model would move out of position even if I gave some small correction. In the pitch and throttle (especially while hovering) it was like my corrections were two steps behind. That’s gone with the 14mz. Also, I used a lot of - expo as the fast digital servos we really not helping my flying and I had to reduce their affect to help with my control timing, especially during hovering. My commands would be behind what was needed and I would get in situations where I needed to wait to see if my inputs would take affect. This mental delay resulted in slower flying /corrections on my part.

On my first flight on the second day of using the 14mz at B-ham I placed the model starting position to hover sideways right in front of me. As I lifted the model to have the landing gear eye level I locked the model into a hover and tired to maintain position. I don't remember holding a model so still before and or actually giving any inputs. I just would see the model about to move and then it didn't. As the model was out of trim, wanting to fly forward, I held back elevator all the time. But once I found the stick position to hold the model I didn't think I moved the stick very much at all. I don't remember ever holding the model so stationary than with the new 14mz.

Just like the GY601 is using a high data rate from the gyro to the servo, the 9251 data speed is like 270hz, all the other flying channels (throttle, pitch, elevator, and aileron) are now keeping up with the speed of the tail servo. The 14mz is using the speed in the 9252 servos to keep the commands to a minimum and more precise. With the 14mz I had to delay my inputs while flying as they are taking affect too soon compared to the 9z. On the first day of using the 14mz, when doing pirouetting flips, I was out of sync with the model and could not maintain the maneuver. During the entire first day my flying tempo was slow and some of that was due to the long drive to B-Ham and not getting much sheep the 12 hours before. By the next day, Saturday, I was doing medium speed pirouetting flips at eye level and while the heli was pirouetting I was making slight corrections to cyclic more than I could before. I was mentally and physically correcting the position of the model much faster than I could with the 9z.

Chuckie
03-23-2005 Over year old.
 
 
ttrip06
Senior Heliman
Location: Central Pa

Most people don't brag about not getting much sheep 12 hrs before!! LOL But that is why you are Chuckie.

Could not resist.
03-23-2005 Over year old.
 
 
Chuckie
Key Veteran
Location: Crofton Maryland, MHA member

With White Chocolate driving 90 mph in an Expedition thought the VA hills pulling 100 grand worth of helis and the XM radio blasting base in the rear seat it’s hard to sleep. And Beast was not helping as he laughs so loud.
03-23-2005 Over year old.
 
 
Mujenpwr
Senior Heliman
Location: Mickleton, NJ

Yeah but how does the 14MZ deal with fingers shaking all the time while flying? Does it have oscillatory expo? Hows it seem to fly with the older 1024 Rxs?
03-23-2005 Over year old.
 
 
Chuckie
Key Veteran
Location: Crofton Maryland, MHA member

Mujenpwr,

Just stop drinking while you fly and you should be ok or you can get big rubber bands and use them to hold the sticks. Bigger springs on the sticks would also help.

Have not flown my second heli with Rx at 1024 yet. Swash interactions are reduced by just having cyclic and pitch servos on channel 4, 5, and 6 but without the higher datalink I don't think flying will be any better than the 9z. In fact it may be hard to go back and forth so I guess I'll have to get another G3 Rx. You want a good working 309 Rx or maybe my 149 Rx? Don't need so many receivers but will keep my WCII as backup and for flying XTR.

Chuckie
03-24-2005 Over year old.
 
 
Chuckie
Key Veteran
Location: Crofton Maryland, MHA member

ttrip06,

Was not trying to brag but I couldn't figure out why I was flying so slow considering I just spent big bucks to improve my flying. For the price the dam thing should have made my flying look good.

Chuckie
03-24-2005 Over year old.
 
 
Mujenpwr
Senior Heliman
Location: Mickleton, NJ

Hey reread your post is says Sheep not sleep. You gonna let me fly your machine with the 14MZ so I can decide if I need one? I tried the rubber bands and it was NFG. Thanks for the tip. I'll let you know about the R149.

Mujenpwr
03-24-2005 Over year old.
 
 
Chuckie
Key Veteran
Location: Crofton Maryland, MHA member

Got to get your 12 sheep to fly good in this hobby!

Sure you can fly my stuff. Come down to the open house end of April and we'll buddy box my 14mz/Tempest. The club shuttle is looking pretty tattered and people have been eyeing it lately for another terminal velocity ground maneuver. I might have to charge others for flight instruction though. Your safe but you need to fix that twitchy Fury of yours so mine doesn't seem so slow.

Chuckie
03-24-2005 Over year old.
 
 
vetrider
Elite Veteran
Location: Daleville, AL (Ft.Rucker)

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With the 9z the model would move out of position even if I gave some small correction. In the pitch and throttle (especially while hovering) it was like my corrections were two steps behind. That’s gone with the 14mz. Also, I used a lot of - expo as the fast digital servos we really not helping my flying and I had to reduce their affect to help with my control timing, especially during hovering.


Nice contradition.

I'm sure the 14MZ is awsome but a better setup with your 9Z would help in comparison also. I've seen Gordie (GM1) and other FAI guys fly and setup has a LOT to do with it. If not wrong, I remember Gordie mention that he uses all 4 flight modes to do a full routine. Makes me cringe to think about that much setup! Enjoy your new radio.

I'm waiting for the 12.

Nolan Manley
RREMODELS, KBDDintl, Magnum Fuel
Stratus, ODIN, Knight3D, ATOM 500, TREX 700N.
04-12-2005 Over year old.
 
 
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