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Madman
Veteran
Location: Roswell, GA

Well, hopefully somebody from GP or Futaba will pay attention to this thread and see if we can't help get certain things done to BOTH the hardware and software over time for this rather large investment.

This thread will be about asking any 14MZ users to report bugs or suggestions in replies and then I will edit this first post with the ones that pass the test of truly being 'bugs' and not 'features' after the geniuses on this forum discuss them as they come up. Some of mine might be wrong as well - so who knows and if any of you disagree with my leaving them in the 3 categories below or can explain them to me, I'll take 'em out

Software Suggestions:

1 - Need to be able to SORT models alpha by name or by type in the Select menu.

2 - Should be able to copy models without having to first select them.

3 - Should be able to hear switch sounds over music.

4 - An optional "beep" for zero degrees pitch would be WAY cool on the left stick for 3D guys at the exact zero position.

Hardware Suggestions:

1 - Get the Throttle gimbal to travel as far as the cyclic one in the elevator axis. It has a VERY short range and makes the pitch exceedingly sensitive for former 9C users. Not as bad for former 9Z users. I mean at least the damn throttle stick should be able to align with the top and bottom calibration lines! It won't even make it there.

Software Bugs:

1 - Check your models carefully when copied from someone elses CF to your radio. We found certain AFR data didn't make the transition.

2 - When creating a new model, certain remnant Linkage options are carried over from whatever was the model in memory at the time. These include the model picture and sound assignments.

3 - Maybe it's me, but in the gyro setup screen, if you like to have BOTH options of Normal and HH and even when the rates 1-3 are grouped, they don't move across conditions and have to be set for each.

4 - Can someone tell me how to group a dual rate/dual expo across conditions that are not grouped? Or at least a copy function?

5 - NASSCAR and seemingly confirmed reported bug:

Channel changing problem - No confirmation, but after several attempts it will change to the selected channel without acknowledging the change. Also, occassionally even with a correct new channel assignment, channel 1 doesn't respond on initial reboot?

Well, that's mine so far. I'm sure some will come off as people tell me what the purpose is or how to do it.

Mike

03-13-2005 Over year old.

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TMoore
rrProfessor
Location: Cookeville, TN

It's a matter of opinion on the throttle stick. I personally don't like long travel throttle stick travels but that's me. At the very least you should be able to change it to suit the owner.

TM

03-13-2005 Over year old.

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Angelos
Key Veteran
Location: nr Oxford, OX11, UK

Futaba should make the service menu (or at least the stick calibration menu) accessible to the user so people can recalibrate their sticks if they decide to remove these stops to increase the stick travel, or change between mode 1 and mode 2. It is a simple procedure which can be done by most RC hobbyists.

-Angelos

Spartan RC R&D - Visit us at our local club www.helicollective.org.uk

03-13-2005 Over year old.

Nasscar][
Veteran
Location: Newark, Delaware

Channel Selection

Has anyone been sucessful in changing channels?

I have had several problems:
1) No confermation, but after several attempts it will change to the selected channel without acknowledging the change.

2) Futaba Service Center told me that this normally occurs If the batter isn't charge at 100%, Well I've tried at 100%, 50% and 40% and still nothing. They even also suggested that I take the antenna wire of the rx and wrap it around the tx antenna with the antenna fully extended. (Still nonthing)

Although the DSC cord works as expected to change channels.

I plan on following up with Model Services on Monday to suggest a replacement radio (NEW) if this problem can't be resolved. This radio was purchased from Heliproz.

If anyone is having the same problem(s) now is the time to speak up.

03-14-2005 Over year old.

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Angelos
Key Veteran
Location: nr Oxford, OX11, UK

Quote
Futaba Service Center told me that this normally occurs If the batter isn't charge at 100%,

That’s rubbish! It is a computer system and it either works or doesn’t. There isn’t such thing as some options not working if the battery is low. Welcome to the world of Windows applications! The more complex the software is, the more bugs it is likely to have! A new radio won’t solve it. You just have to wait for the new firmware release.

Spartan RC R&D - Visit us at our local club www.helicollective.org.uk

03-14-2005 Over year old.

George Matthews
Key Veteran
Location: N.W. Ohio

Being first on the block has it's disadvantages .

George Matthews

03-14-2005 Over year old.

hpilotrc
Veteran
Location: NY--->>Mooresville, NC USA 8/2005

14MZ Problems????

Hopefully this radio will have some bugs.....and JR will come out with their new Radio......and eventually this radio will sell for under $1000.00.....like the old 9Z. Then the rest of us could afford to buy it.

Michael

03-14-2005 Over year old.

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Madman
Veteran
Location: Roswell, GA

Nasscar, it sounds to me like you've simply got a bad or un-calibrated touch screen. I don't remember there being a confirmation of channel changes but it should work on the first try if you press in the right place. Have you tried re-calibrating the screen?

03-14-2005 Over year old.

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Chuckie
Key Veteran
Location: Crofton Maryland, MHA member

For Software #4 go create a new model and then edit the picture under Link menu. Select model under Current File on left and you get a prompt, This File is released, Sure?. Hit Yes. Crapy picture returns.

03-14-2005 Over year old.

Brett
Veteran
Location: Chicago Burbs

GV-1 and Hold

I set up the GV-1 as per the instructions and when I switch between normal idle 1 or idle 2 the gv-1 scrren shows that it follows SR-1 1000rpm and SR-2 1500rpms SR-3 2000 rpms but when I hit the hold it does not shut it down.

Any suggestions

thanks

03-14-2005 Over year old.

Dr.Ben
Elite Veteran
Location: Richmond, VA, USA

Brett,

Once you've calibrated the GV-1 in GROUP and then changed to SINGLE for your individual settings in the flight conditions, go back to the HOLD condition and simply set the ACT to INH.

If you keep this GV-1 screen punched up, you'll see what screen configuration is being maintained to keep the GV-1 ON when you compare HOLD to the other conditions.

Ben Minor

03-14-2005 Over year old.

Nasscar][
Veteran
Location: Newark, Delaware

Madman,

According to Model Services it should acknowledge the rx receiving the change. (BTW: it only worked once)

Follow-up:

I talked to Pete Notis and it's a know problem.

No remember that I said that the change does occur, but there isn't any more confermations.

Regards

03-14-2005 Over year old.

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Brett
Veteran
Location: Chicago Burbs

Thanks Ben I will give it a try tommorrow, lights out for me right now.

Thanks again

03-14-2005 Over year old.

Dr.Ben
Elite Veteran
Location: Richmond, VA, USA

Don't sweat looking for the wiggle. Mine captures the new frequency every time but doesn't wiggle. Maybe the next software version.

Ben Minor

03-14-2005 Over year old.

Chuckie
Key Veteran
Location: Crofton Maryland, MHA member

Thought I share a PM I had with Dr. Ben regarding freq changes.

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From Dr.Ben

Charles,

Here's what is seeming to work best WRT changing frequencies:

Transmitter ON (can be either transmitting or not)

Go into the frequency menu and hit the required keys to get to the point where you are going to transmit data.

Fully extend the radio antenna and get it REALLY close to the receiver antenna (within 6 inches or less).

Hit the transmit button. Wait unit the first set of tones goes through, then power up the receiver.

The transmitter will say retry in any case because it has no way of knowing whether the receiver locked to the new frequency.

Turn everything off and reboot. Select transmit. The receiver should be changed over.

For whatever reason, some guys are not seeing the ch 1 servo wiggle. Even in those cases, the channel switch seems to be occurring correctly. I know of NO cases where the apparently switch frequency was in fact not. It's like being kinda pregnant .

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My Response

Hi Dr.Ben,

Thanks for the info. I can now get the rx to switch regularly but sometimes it doesn't work. I have tried switching freqs about 20 times following your suggestions and here's what I see.

A long antenna in close to the Rx is required but sometimes the rx doesn't switch. If the antenna is parallel to the tail end of the rx antenna it switches every time. My attempts up to now didn't even have the antenna extended.

When I don't see the servo move I will continue to select Retry and re-power up the rx and when the channel 1 servo moves, throttle, the switch is a definite. If I don’t see the servo move then the rx has not switched. Every time the servo moves on rx power up the switch is definite even if I keep on resending by Retry. I guess the rx accepts the freq change regardless of the freq the tx is on and the number of times the signal is sent, like you said the tx does not need to be transmitting on the main freq.

In some cases the servo didn't move and I shut down the tx but when I powered up the freq change was not made so in my case the servo will move for sure.

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So based on the recent posts, I guess the servo moving is not required but as I stated in my case if it doesn't move the swich didn't occur. Your setup may differ.

Charles

03-14-2005 Over year old.

Brett
Veteran
Location: Chicago Burbs

I think I have the Gov rates wored out thanks, if I want to turn it on off with a seperate switch is that done in the same screen. I see it switch the gov switch screen off but it does not change the SR1-3 rpms on the gov, I though that it should go to Gov off

Thanks

03-14-2005 Over year old.

Dr.Ben
Elite Veteran
Location: Richmond, VA, USA

Use the SW Cd screen to verify all your settings. It shows ON and OFF like you want to see. Don't forget to set your GV-1 to go off in Fail Safe.

Ben Minor

03-14-2005 Over year old.

JKos
Elite Veteran
Location: City of California in the state of Maryland

Maybe I'm missing something, but why does the GV-1 need to be "turned off" in hold? Does stick switching not do that for you automatically?

I haven't had any problems changing the frequency. I've only done it five times just for fun, but it did work each time. I can't remember if I saw ch 1 wiggle, though.

- John

03-14-2005 Over year old.

Dr.Ben
Elite Veteran
Location: Richmond, VA, USA

Whether it does so depends on how the set up is configured and whether you use a switch to toggle it versus the stick switching method.

Ben Minor

03-14-2005 Over year old.

Sid€x
Senior Heliman
Location: Bergamo - Italy

Who knows as download firmware ?
Is it possibile to use ActiveSync ?

Thx

03-14-2005 Over year old.

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