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e-Align T-REX 250-450-500-600 > Crystal Going Bad?!
 
 
MFIS
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Location: The Netherlands

Another new one for me

I finished a pack outside today, came in, threw that pack on the charger and put a new one in for another flight (very low wind today and since i fly off my roof its great weather for me today). Anyway, I throw in the new pack and i get no response from the servos and the ESC will beep but not arm. Ok i think and start troubleshooting. What it came down to was that nothing fixed it until i put in a new crystal.

What kind of good luck can i ask for? Almost unbelievable that in between two flights a crystal went bad. Would have been a HORRIBLE crash if that had happened while i was flying it i guess.

My question is this: How often do these things go bad? Why? How to prevent it? Should you swap them out often ? Are there symptoms to look for when they start to go bad?

These were GWS crystals on the 35 MHZ band, Chan 74, with a futaba radio and webra receiver.

Kinda scary. This is the first i have ever seen a crystal go bad. I have had a few dead on arrivals but never seen one go bad when it was already a good one. :/
02-25-2005 Over year old.
 
 
copperclad
Elite Veteran
Location: ..

hi
you probably do this already but taping the xtal in will help keep it from rattleing in its socket , xtalls seem to be pretty hardy to everything but shock , but like most things electronic they usually fail in the first few weeks or not at all
02-25-2005 Over year old.
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jack726
Veteran
Location: Cerritos California

GWS

I would never fly a GWS unless I soldered the crystal in place. They are so loose in this reciever as to be riduculous.

Crystal dont go bad. They will last hundreds of years unless you break them.

A sympton of a crystal going bad is a complete loss of contoll. If the crystal is slightly bad you are recieving on another frequency.

Jack ( 45 years expierience as a Ham Radio opperator)
02-26-2005 Over year old.
 
 
dkshema
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Location: Cedar Rapids, IA

Crystals are either "good", or "bad". They RARELY die a slow, painful death. Having flown RC since about 1970, I've lost one crystal. It was broken in a nasty crash, along with just about everything else it was connected to. My small pattern plane went full bore, straight down into asphalt. The end of my crankshaft along with the prop nut were embedded about a1/2 inch into the asphalt, and the crankshaft mushroomed in the area of the venturi. Very bad crash.

You really have to work to break a crystal. From what others have said, you might have just had a loose connection in the crystal socket in the receiver. If the socket itself isn't a loose fit on the pin, there's an outside chance that the solder joint between the socket and the PWB is bad. After you replaced the crystal and verified that the RX still worked, did you then put the suspect crystal back in place, to see if it would work again? If a new crystal works, but the original doesn't, then suspect the crystal as being fractured.

One other thing --

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This is the first i have ever seen a crystal go bad. I have had a few dead on arrivals but never seen one go bad when it was already a good one.


Where are you buying crystals that you have "had a few dead on arrivals"? I'd wonder about the supplier and where he's getting his stock from if this is a common occurrence for you.

Dave
02-26-2005 Over year old.
 
 
MFIS
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Location: The Netherlands

I know that the name of this thread sounds a bit unclear but to clarify things here, the thread topic is a shortened version of the sentence - "Ever heard of a crystal going bad?!" I realize that they either work or dont This one appears to dont.

When i said ive had a few DOA that was referring to what ive seen at the LHS. Have had one personally that simply didnt work fresh out of the package and seen the same thing happen a couple other times to someone else. I imagine it could have been a shipment that was perhaps a bit mistreated en route or perhaps a bad batch. Who knows. Its good to hear this isnt a common occurrence tho. The crystal just that stopped working for me yesterday was pretty new and had only been used in a test model a couple times so its possible it was faulty and just waiting to fail. I dont know. At least i dont feel anymore like its a common occurrence and that i should get used to having models come crashing to earth from failed crystals. I was just a bit worried that this was gonna be "one of those things a flyer just has to deal with and get used to".
02-26-2005 Over year old.
 
 
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