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Kyosho Caliber 30 & 60 - Concept - Nexus > Caliber 90 ?????
 
 
Mr. Mike
Senior Heliman
Location: Vienna, Austria

A few weeks ago Jason Chan reported about this year's Shizuoka Hobby Fair. The report included also a few pictures of the Kyosho booth showing the new CALIBER 90. Does anybody have any idea about the release date and the price of this beautiful machine???


best regards
Mike
07-03-2002 Over year old.
 
 
Chris.C
Senior Heliman
Location: Hong Kong

According to the Radio Control Technique(August), C90 will be available at August and it costs slightly more than the Freya WC in Japan.

Cheers,

Chris
07-12-2002 Over year old.
 
 
josephk
Senior Heliman
Location: Toronto, Ontario, Canada

Chris, any chance of buying one for yourself ?

Chris da man !!

Any chance the Caliber 90 going to show up under your collections ? From what I learnt from Jason's website, looks like the carbon frame, servos orientation and the main frame structure changed a bit, the tail looks almost the same as the 60.

Oh, almost missed the rotorhead. I am not too into underslug rotorhead design. Look at the top F3C birds like JR Superio, Hirobo Eagle Freya EX or WC (non original Freya) and the new JR 90. They all use high flybar design.

Its worth checking out thou.

Joe
07-13-2002 Over year old.
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Chris.C
Senior Heliman
Location: Hong Kong

Hi Joe

The main change in the frame is to put the three swashplate controls in one shaft. The other changes like the fan is driven by a toothed belt that Kyosho claims it doubles the output of C60. The engine mount also changed to have the third pair of mounting holes for the OS70 - I guess. Yes, your right. the tail is pretty much the same.

I know some FAI guys either machined their main mast which is longer than the original or produced another main hub to swap the position of flybar and main blade. This is for a common objective - to increase stability in hovering manuvers. I am using the option mast (220mm) which I found is not enough. So I guess Kyosho chose underslung head in order to place the main blades further higher.

The Caliber 60 is already a very good aerobatic machine. I am in the process of putting in the retract landing gear and swift body in it and replace the engine with an OS70. The C90? Yes, may be but that depends on my budget approver.

Cheers

Chris
07-15-2002 Over year old.
 
 
josephk
Senior Heliman
Location: Toronto, Ontario, Canada

Retractable landing gear !!! Good choice, sure its very cool looking. You might have seen my retractable wheel on my page but the OK model 20 sized retracts did add some weigth to the heli itself. If I were to redo my retractable, I would look into copying the K&S design onto the Caliber.

Oh Chris and Mike, check out my recent findings on the net

http://www.kmk.il24.net/wangan-heli...s/Ca-mount2.jpg
http://www.kmk.il24.net/wangan-heli...nt-yokokara.jpg

A custom made engine mount, the mount extends to the top reaches the carbon side frames, looks pretty secure to me. For the one below, well, I cant make a comment on this rotorhead, it seems pieces might fly off as soon as RPM reaches 900

http://www.kmk.il24.net/wangan-heli/images/Ca-head4.jpg

BTW, Chris and Mike, are we the only 3 Caliber owners here at Runryder ? Any other Caliber owners here ?
07-19-2002 Over year old.
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Trond J.
Heliman
Location: Årdal, Norway

Cheers all

I just bought a Caliber 30 a couple of days ago, but i assume you are reffering to the caliber 60.

www.cyberheli.com wil have the Caliber 90 in stock from late Aug. for
US$ 2,349.00 ....that's a lot of money for a helicopter, maybe next year...I guess i'll have to settle for the 30 size


Cheers

Trond J.
07-20-2002 Over year old.
 
 
Chris.C
Senior Heliman
Location: Hong Kong

Thanks for the link, Joe. I was told the retract was created to compliment the carbon under-plate plus the two white flaps for better aerodynamics. The 20 sized retract is already overloaded on a 60 sized chopper not to mention the "impact" loading when a less than perfect autorotation landing is performed. This puts some challenge to the pilot though.

The photo below shows another way to achieve negative delta. I guess this one looks more secure to you



I don't think there are only three guys fly Caliber so I welcomed all of you who have any ideas/information that can share with us to perfect our set up on this lovely chopper. Just throw in your idea no matter you are flying Caliber or not.

Cheers,

Chris
07-23-2002 Over year old.
 
 
josephk
Senior Heliman
Location: Toronto, Ontario, Canada

Sorry, I cant see no picture n/m

Your link is not available
07-31-2002 Over year old.
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litespeed
Heliman
Location:

Hello Chris and all the Guys

I am looking to get a Caliber 30 myself but spare parts for this heli is tough to come by in the US. Can you point me to the right source(s) for parts. As we all know, Tower is not the greatest for support and knowledge in this area. Do you or anyone have a sample list of costs for all common spare parts for this helicopter? If you fly enough--Crash(s) will happen!

Another thing, I am trying to locate is Correct's website in with english text--I like to see all the nice options parts available for this heli. Chris- with your connections--how seriously--- Is Kyosho committed to the Caliber 30? If they are and we have to assume this--How can they let one of their biggest distributor be without spare parts. Do you have a due date for the "All Hop-ups" Caliber 30 pictured at your website. What is your personal thoughts between the Hirobo "Skiddo" 30 vs. Cal 30-- I know they both have their strong and weak points as you mentioned. From the forum-the Hirobo 30 is under power with OS32 and scary with OS50---Would a OS 46 be a good compromise for this heli.

Thanks

PS. Chris-- I really enjoyed your website--I am there for information all the times. Others will "borrow" your materials because you have it first! Yes, they should ask for permission! It is just a matter of Respects and Professionalism.
08-08-2002 Over year old.
 
 
Secret Squirrel
Key Veteran
Location: New Zealander living in Melbourne, Australia

LiteSpeed,
There's is a Caliber 30 review on my site at www.littlerotors.com if you're interested.

Si

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Simon Lockington
08-08-2002 Over year old.
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litespeed
Heliman
Location:

Hello Secret and everyone

Yes, I have been to your website---and Yes it is very good. Please keep us inform with all features. There was only one article on the Caliber 30. Do you have any follow up thoughts on this heli? Any "extended-use" review? There are a lot of positives about this helicopter but it just seems like the maker (Kyosho) does not care to capitalize on "interested attentions" this helicopter is getting. May be the 30 size helicopter does not carry enought bottom-line revenue profit for them. I certainly understand that, $$$ profit is what allows products R&D to take place; therefore all MFGs will concentrate heavily in the 60 size market. However, in order to graduate to that 60 class--most flyers will goes through the 30 due to start up costs, getting comfortable, and good old air time experiences.

Please share with us your thoughts.
08-08-2002 Over year old.
 
 
Chris.C
Senior Heliman
Location: Hong Kong

Hello Litespeed

I think you have a difficult choice here between C30 and Sceadu 30. Since I have not fly both, I can not(or should not) give comment on this. But I can share with you my experience with Caiber 50 or Sceadu 50 if you want to.

In HongKong, we don't have any retail outlet except Stephen's(Cyberheli) where C30 parts is stocked. From what I saw in his shop, the parts should be enough for a mild crash. If you can not find C30 parts, just send Stephen an email and he will get it for you. By all means try him with Correct Parts. Last time he found me some C60 parts with fair price.

If you don't know what the Correct parts is for, feel free to raise it here so that I can share with you (if I know).

Cheers,

Chris
PS I do not have a web site. May be it is Jason's that you were browsing.
08-09-2002 Over year old.
 
 
litespeed
Heliman
Location:

Hello Chris

Hello Chris,

Please accept my apology for the mistake in the ID. I just saw your Last Name "C" and location of Hong Kong and mistaked you for for Jason. Yes, I have been in contact with Stephen at Cyberheli. I am undecided between the Caliber 30 and Scaedu 30, but I do know FOR SURE that I will be buying from Cyberheli. Once again, a big SORRY! I hope to be able to seek your helps and and advices in the future.

Any thoughts on Webra 35 engine Vs. Irvine 39?....ANY ONE THOUGHTS?

Khoi
08-09-2002 Over year old.
 
 
Chris.C
Senior Heliman
Location: Hong Kong

Hi Khoi

No need to be sorry. It really does not matter.

Feel free to raise if I can be of any help.

Cheers

Chris
08-12-2002 Over year old.
 
 
Mavpro
Heliman
Location: Bodø, Norway

Number of Caliber owners here?

Hi!
Josephk asked about the numbers of Caliber owners here at RunRyder.
I'm Finn Hermansen. I live in northern Norway, and own and fly two Calibers. I'm the one who asked Wayne Mann the engine questions, which resulted in a very long answer from Mr. Mann. (Thanks to him there!) I plan on selling one of them (it's too expensive'a 3D-machine), and re-invest it into a ThreeDee NT.

Anyway, I like the Calibers alot. One of them (the "60") has the 1 deg. cone spindle, the other one (the "80") has the 220 mm mast. I tend to like the one with the stock head better, as I think it's better performing through rolls. Of course this also might be due to that they hav different blades.

Now, I'm just waiting for 20 litres of fuel containing less and thinner oil...

Which plug do you guys use?

Finn
08-12-2002 Over year old.
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Chris.C
Senior Heliman
Location: Hong Kong

Hi Finn

What is the fuel that has less and thin oil? What is nitro%? I am using CP30 wiith my OS70. The plug is OS8. So far very good except the fuel bill.

Cheers

Chris
08-14-2002 Over year old.
 
 
Mavpro
Heliman
Location: Bodø, Norway

Hi Chris C.
The fuel is produced in Norway and has the name "Modellracingfuel".
www.modellracingfuel.com Oil is "SuperSynth". It's thinner than the one I currently use (Aerosave). I'm going to test 20 litres of the mix 15/15. Lots of pilots have tested this fuel with extremely good results.

I've been using Enya #4 so far, but I will test the #3 soon.

Finn
08-14-2002 Over year old.
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