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rchelipilot121
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A teacher writes a whole number less than 50,000 on the blackboard. One student states that the number is a multiple of 2; a second states the number is a multiple of 3; and so on until a twelth student says that it is a multiple of 13. The teacher remarks that all except two of the students were right and, moreover, that the two who were wrong spoke one after the other. What number did the teacher write on the blackboard?
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CJames
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Man, I sucked at math, ummmm, 6?
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jerrythercpilot
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Well It cant be a multiple of 11 and 13 so those are the incorrect ones. The number is 5040
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rchelipilot121
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the two who were wrong spoke one after the other
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jerrythercpilot
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Location: --South Florida --

Oh well but 5040 works.
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rchelipilot121
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Oh well but 5040 works

You're close.......only off by about 20,700
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Inspector Fuzz
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Location: My own private Idaho.

Boulian ?(spelling) logic??

This is one of those darn Microsoft employment application questions..
JEFF
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rchelipilot121
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I take it then you don't work for Microsoft???
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jurgen
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Location: Weybridge, Surrey, UK

The answer is 25740, the incorrect multiples are 7 and 8 or student 8 and student 9.

Very sad, I know but I couldn't leave it alone till I figured it out (with the help of excel!).
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rchelipilot121
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jurgen_r30

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The answer is 25740, the incorrect multiples are 7 and 8 or student 8 and student 9
Once again, right on all counts!!!
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jurgen
Senior Heliman
Location: Weybridge, Surrey, UK

I know the answer is already posted but seeing as I couldn't sleep I thought I'd share my improved logic to the answer.

(The first time I did it I used Excel to do it "Brute Force", now that I knew the answer I tried to 'reason' it out)

The list of possibles: 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12and 13.

2 has to be in the list otherwise all the other even numbers would also have to be excluded because any number that is divisible by an even number is also divisible by 2.

4 has to be in the list otherwise 8 and 12 would have to be excluded as well. Same logic as above.

Because 2 and 4 are included we can include 3 (remember we are looking for 2 sequential numbers to exclude).

Now if 2 and 3 are included then the number we are looking for must be a multiple of 6 (so that 2 and 3 can divide into it, 6 is known as the LCM (lowest common multiple) of 2 and 3)

Because we have 4 and 6 we can include 5.

The LCM of 2, 3, 4, 5 and 6 = 60 so 10 and 12 also join the list as they can both divide into 60.

Because we have 10 and 12 in the list we can add 11 and 13 as well.

Already with only low numbers we almost have the whole list. The only numbers not in yet are 7, 8 and 9. So we know that 8 is one of the numbers that will be left out (because it has to be either 7, 8 or 8, 9).

This is where the numbers start to grow! Stick with me!

LCM for 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 10 and 12 is 60 (remember from above), so now I start adding one number at a time to that list.

LCM for 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 10, 11 and 12 is 660 (60 X 11)
LCM for 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 10, 11, 12 and 13 is 8580 (660 X 13)

8580 is not divisble by 7, 8 or 9 so we know we are still on the right track! Nearly there....

8580 X 2 = 17160 which is divisible by 8, no good..

8580 X 3 = 25740 which is divisible by 9 but not by 7 or 8! There's the answer!

rchelipilot121 do you have the working out of the original? Is there a better way to get to this answer?
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rchelipilot121
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Let N be the number we are looking for. Since all the students, except two who spoke one after the other, were correct, it can be deduced that N can be divided by 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 10, 11, 12, and 13. This is because if 2 does not divide N, neither does 4; if 3 does not divide N, neither does 6; if 5 does not divide N, neither does 10; and so on. All of this leaves 7, 8, and 9 as the only possible numbers that do not divide N. It is therefore necessary to examine two cases:
Case 1. N is not divisible by 8 and 9. In this case, however, the smallest number divisible by all the other numbers up to 13 (i.e., their least common multiple) is 60,060, a number greater than the one written on the blackboard.
Case 2. N is not divisible by 7 and 8. The least common multiple of the remaining numbers is 25,740, and since any other multiple of the same numbers is greater than 50,000, this must have the number written by the teacher.
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jurgen
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Location: Weybridge, Surrey, UK

So I was pretty close then???
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