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Hoverup
Elite Veteran
Location: Gulf Coast

Got mine from Canada today and it is a finely crafted kit. The T/R is the only area that looks a little weak in the manner of the pitch slider and T/R blades attachment. Also the servos are laid out in a 90 degree pattern,but the SP is 120 CCPM. Not optimum. Someone missed a chance to do it right the first time here. This is the same way the Hornet CP design started and then moved on and copied Walt Ferar's 120servo laydown approach for the Hornet 2. This will likely be the first upgrade to come down the pike along with a better T/R hub,blade holders and pitch slider. I think once I have flown it a while longer I will pirate the CNC TR pieces off one of my Hornets and adapt them to the Maxir. All in all it's a fine little package with some excellent features. No glue is a step in the right direction for sure.

And BTW the H2 weighted blades work nicely as do the Like90 H2 blades. They are a little shorter in span then the blades supplied with the Maxir but the slight increase in head speed makes up for the loss in rotor disc. Wouldn't want to go with the shorter blades on a heavy Maxir though.

Cheers - Boyd

And Mark, we should have a separate area for the Maxir to give this fledgling a break.

Cheers - Boyd
AMA80393
IRCHA 3355
Major USAF
Retired
01-07-2005 Over year old.
 
 
rocheleaud
Heliman
Location: Montreal, canada

Hi Boyd ,

Thanks for the information . By the way , the tail rotor is a lot tougher than it look like . In 3 or 4 big crash ( walls come fast indoor ) we never broke anything on the tail . I mean , no tail pinion , no tail grip , no slider , no tail blade ... i don't know why ... and i really like to have the ball link stock on the slider . The other good point compared to a shogun or hornet II is the full closed gearbox ... it's much more rigid so you don't end up with all the gear eaten after 3 battery pack ( no play between the gear ) . The only thing i asked Ian ( Ian is one of the guy at LaHeli ) about the desing is to have 2 bearings in the tail grip instead of just only one ( to prevent side play ) . He said it is not a necessity because the tail blades are desing to center automaticaly no mater the 'slop' in the tail grip . But they are thinking about it anyway .

The only question i have to you is i failed to get the point about servos placement . For me it's a 120 ccpm desing ... so i don't get it when you write it's not optimum ... If i compare servos placement , the Maxir is almost the exact replica of a Logo10 servos placement . Is the optimum like a Eolo ? where you have all the 3 servos laid around the mast of the main shaft in the same angle ? and how will that be more optimum ... we already have full travell ( +12 -12 ) stock with hs 55 on this one ... and all the servos arm are perfectly aligned with the 3 ball link of the swach-plate ...hum , i will have to think about it

And thanks for the tips of the main blades

Man , i can't wait to go fly indoor sunday ... it's -15 celsius right now and we received 20 cm of snow ... No go for the Maxir outside ... hehehe
01-08-2005 Over year old.
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vinrx7
Veteran
Location: Americas finest city

Any suppliers in the U.S.?

STUPID TREE!!!
01-08-2005 Over year old.
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aviation
Senior Heliman
Location: Quebec Canada

Another purchase

I just bought one from I-Care and was very happy with the purchase and the help that came with it. I will take it to Toronto with me and start putting it together, I bought the motor, speed control , battery and a few spares and upgrades. I will keep the web informed as to it's progress, I have looked at many other brands and really like this one.

Aviation
01-08-2005 Over year old.
 
 
Helnet
Senior Heliman
Location: Canada, Québec

Hey Boyd and Aviation welcome to the group of MAX HERE.

I'm sure you'll like to fly this baby.


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01-08-2005 Over year old.
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coreyc
Heliman
Location: Winnipeg, MB, Canada

How big is this heli? Is it more like a Hornet or a Shogun/T-Rex? I would really like to see a picture of the MaxiR beside a Shogun or T-Rex!
01-10-2005 Over year old.
 
 
Hoverup
Elite Veteran
Location: Gulf Coast

Almost exactly the same size as a Hornet 2.

Cheers - Boyd
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coreyc
Heliman
Location: Winnipeg, MB, Canada

Man that is to bad, I wanted something a little bigger like the T-Rex, I had a piccolo, Hornet, Hornet II, and didn't really like any of them, I think it was the small size. I did like the Hornet II the best though. If I wasn't into the Hornet II do you think it would be the same for this one or is it a whole new ball game?
01-10-2005 Over year old.
 
 
Hoverup
Elite Veteran
Location: Gulf Coast

These are available prebuilt for extra $$. I am afraid though that if you prang it, this puppy will be just as demanding as a Hornet 2 to rebuild and redial. The main difficulty will be spare parts if you live in the USA. It takes forever for parts to ship in from Canada. I get things faster out of Taiwan, Japan, the UK and Germany than I do from Canada. Go figure?? If you didn't like the Hornet's fiddle factor then you like won't care for this heli.

The biggest advantage of the MaxIr over the Hornets is the assembly of the MaxIr uses fasteners while the Hornet uses CA. This always made Hornet rebuilds a nightmare.

Cheers - Boyd
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01-10-2005 Over year old.
 
 
coreyc
Heliman
Location: Winnipeg, MB, Canada

Great thanks.
01-10-2005 Over year old.
 
 
rocheleaud
Heliman
Location: Montreal, canada

Coreyc ,

You should look at the Eolo if you whant something a litle bit bigger but not too big . Shogun , TRex , Maxir , are the indoor type of helicopter , while the Eolo are the parc flyers size .
01-10-2005 Over year old.
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rocheleaud
Heliman
Location: Montreal, canada

Ok , for those who have the shultze speed control , it look like a throtle end point problem . The controler is fast enought for this motor , here is the answer of shultze:

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Another Icare customers have the same issues , but we
> played with end point and trim of his transmitter and
> we where able to bring the head speed as high as 2200
> ... so it look like a travel ajustment problem . Is
> there any 'miracle' receipies to ajust my end point
> and trim on the transmitter ??? The TMM can learn it
> automaticly , this is maybe why it work with the TMM
> and not the shultze ???

### In the heli mode the travel is fixed, so all adjustment have to be
made in the transmitter.
### If we would let the controller learn the travel, you could not
calculate the headspeed by the transmitter values.
### Another different thing is that you are using the speed governor
mode,
### so the servo signal is not proportional with the power,
### the servo signal is proportional with the RPM set value.
### At high rpm and a 2-pole motor that giving these shaft speeds:
### 1.10ms servo signal means stop,
### 1.15ms servo signal giving 10900RPM
### 1.90ms servo signal giving 118000RPM

### For your setup and 2200RPM you need a set value of:

### 2200RPM * 6(gear ratio) * 14/2(motor poles) = 92400RPM

### So you need (92400RPM-10900RPM)/(118000RPM-10900RPM) * 0.75ms +
1.15ms = 1.72ms.
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Ok , so , to have full rpm , we need to get out a signal that last 1.72ms on the throttle chanel ( chanel 3 for almost every one ) ... I think that there is someone in the club who have a gizmo( from hitec ) where you plug the chanel that you whant to test and see this frequency ... The problem is zero is suppose to be 1.10ms but on some transmitter , with the throtle stick full down , it give around 1.25ms and at full throtle , give 1.65ms . This is why , when i switch from one brand of transmitter to the other , sometime i can achieve more servos trow ( i had this particular problem with one of my parc flyer ) . With a Jr radio , i was able to achieve more travel on a particular servos but not my futaba ... that will translate in more head speed on the Maxir ... i will do more tests with my hitec transmiter tonight .
01-11-2005 Over year old.
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Helnet
Senior Heliman
Location: Canada, Québec

shultze speed control

I have a 8103 radio. I put my High Throttle ATV to 150% and my head speed come to 2100rpm.
I put my low Throttle ATV to 0% and the speed control wont arm. I raise the low ATV to 62% and Beep arm.. I continue to leave the heli arm and raise down the low ATV to 0% and it start to turn. I put my throttle to full and check again the head speed and it was a t 2200.

Very weird

How to have the max head speed?

Anybody have check it's head speed and have more than 2200rpm?


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01-16-2005 Over year old.
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jaba
Heliman
Location: Czech republic, Prague

Maxir SE

Look at LA Heli site
Maxir is comming in special collector's edition.

01-18-2005 Over year old.
 
 
Helnet
Senior Heliman
Location: Canada, Québec

Very nice model. Looks at this paddle!


It will release the new 4 blades in the 1st mid of 2005


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01-18-2005 Over year old.
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pwkpete
Senior Heliman
Location: Pewaukee, WI, USA

Anyone have thoughts on servo selection?

I'm not a big HS-55 fan, poor centering.
Futaba 3108 has good centering but slightly different dimensions and I can't seem to find replacement gears or arms.
The BlueBird 371, again slightly different size, but new and unknown parts availability.
Then there is the GWS narp HP BB. Looks good on paper, easy to get parts and inexpensive. Unknown on centering, and a little different size wise.

Anyone know if you can dye G10?
01-19-2005 Over year old.
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rocheleaud
Heliman
Location: Montreal, canada

I am using hs56 on the Maxir ... good centering , lot of torque ... but need some spacer to fit on the Maxir and you need the create a hole in the midle ...

Look there is a picture on how i did it :
http://homepage.mac.com/logomaniac1...5644C9211D9.jpg

I don't know about the GWS one ... if you try it , can you report how it whent ???
01-19-2005 Over year old.
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dnam
Veteran
Location: Herndon, VA - USA

I just talked to Russ, the gentleman who is selling some Maxirs here in the US. He said he has one Maxir setup with the HS-55s and one with the Futaba 3108s (tail in both is HS-50) and he likes the 3108s better. Just need a little mod on the frame to mount but very easy... I think the 3108s are the way to go vs HS-56 as the Futs are only 7.6g-s each.
01-19-2005 Over year old.
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pwkpete
Senior Heliman
Location: Pewaukee, WI, USA

Yes, I've talked with Russ as well. I got mine from him.

The thing I don't like about the Futabas is that I haven't been able to find a source of replacement horns and gears. As far as I've read, Futaba doesn't sell the replacement horns and it the Hitecs were recommended, but they aren't the best fit.

I mentioned the GWS naro HP (the Maxxprods are supposed to be GWS in disguise), it has a BB, specs are on par with the Futaba, except 9ish grams.
01-19-2005 Over year old.
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Helnet
Senior Heliman
Location: Canada, Québec

Anyone have thoughts on servo selection?

I have 4 MPI MX-50HP on my setup. There are fast .08, at 6.0v and .11 at 4.8v strong 32oz and chip price. Fit exactly in the hole.


Helnet @--x
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01-19-2005 Over year old.
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