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Century Hawk - Falcon - Raven - Predator > Can we use raptor woodies?
 
 
ncostes
Veteran
Location: US

Can we use these mavrick blades on a hawk IV? they seem to be the same length and use a 4mm bolt...

Our Price: $16.99
MVPV0039 550mm Wood


from heliproz.com

Thanks
06-04-2002 Over year old.
 
 
scotter
Senior Heliman
Location: Elkton, MD

blades

I'm not familair with Mavrick blades themselves, but in general, blades that fit on a Raptor should fit on the Hawk.
06-04-2002 Over year old.
 
 
ncostes
Veteran
Location: US

Ok thanks. Is there any advantage to the $20 aerotech wood blades over these maverick blades? I've seen a couple of guys with these maverick ones at the field lately.
06-04-2002 Over year old.
 
 
oldfart
Elite Veteran
Location: Vancouver, Canada

What Blades?

There is a lot more to blades then there length and fit.
The airfoil used, the location of the airfoil's center of lift, the spanwise center of gravity location, chordwise center of gravity location and the matching of these can make big differences in the dynamic stability of the blades.

There are numerous companies in the world that have the machinery to make wood blades. The question is, do they have the design knowledge to design some that would be dynamically stable.

An unstable blade will :
a) make your collective and cyclic servos work a lot harder to keep the instability under of control - even in the hover. Consequently higher battery drain and the servo gears and their bearing seats will wear a lot faster, needless to say, so will all the components related to the control system (swashplate, washout hub etc.)
b) they can cause some trailing edge control rotor head systems to flutter excessively (woof & poof)
c) they will require excessive trim differences inverted relative to right side up, and bigger trim differences in FFF then in the hover then would a stable blade.
d) they will have an excessive (in some cases severe) tendency to pitch up. One will have to feed in a lot of down/forward cyclic when coming out of a loop or specially a stall turn to keep the nose from pitching up and the heli from ballooning.

I have never tested the "Maverick" blades. But I have tested a lot of inexpensive woodies and the $20 Aerotech are very stable for a woodie, even more stable then some of the composite blades I have tested.

So be careful about saving $3. It may really not be a saving in reality.

Phil
06-04-2002 Over year old.
 
 
fitenfyr
rrProfessor
Location: Port Orchard, Washington

Mavrikk blades...

I have/had a set on my Raptor. Same quality as the aerotechs IMO. I just boomstruck the Rappy 2 days ago so the blades are now toast.
The Hawk and the Rappy use the same blade. I have Phoenix (same head as the hawk) and the blades are indentical.

Jason

Jason Stiffey
Fly Fast....Live Slow...
06-04-2002 Over year old.
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oldfart
Elite Veteran
Location: Vancouver, Canada

Blades

Jason,
How far back from the leading edge of the blade is the front of the blade bolt hole on the maverick blades?
How much do the maverick blades lead?
What are their weight?
Phil
06-04-2002 Over year old.
 
 
ncostes
Veteran
Location: US

Phil
Thanks for the good advice (again).

A good heli pilot in our club is using these mavrick blades on his rap 30 and 50 (different sizes/weights) so that is why I asked. He is quite meticulous with his heli and seems to know his stuff (dwaynet on here).

I can't find a web site for Mavrikk (that's how it's spelled).

Here is their distributor...

http://dbestco.com/

but I can't find any specs on the blades.

But from your comments I gather blades are not quite as interchangable as I thought.

I'll stick with the aerotechs for now - I would have thought the mavrikk blades which don't seem to need to be covered with the shrink wrap material would be better - I was not really concerned about saving the $3 - I thought they might be a better product.

It is true that these aerotech blades are very stable.

Thanks again,
Nick
06-05-2002 Over year old.
 
 
dwaynet
Senior Heliman
Location: Fairfax, Virginia

The Mavrikk blades came in the Mavrikk crash kit. For the price you can't beat them for a Raptor especially since they come with boom supports.
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I would have thought the mavrikk blades which don't seem to need to be covered with the shrink wrap material would be better



The Mavrikk blades are covered with shrink wrap, it's just white.

I flew them for 1/2 gallon so far just to try them out and they seem comparable with the Ace ones. If you put them together they are identical except for the shrink wrap.

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How far back from the leading edge of the blade is the front of the blade bolt hole on the maverick blades?

Same as the stock Raptor blades, they are identical. I would say that the weight is the same as well.

I think this is the last set of wood blades I will be getting as I am beginning to really stress the 50 and the wood blades are starting to worry me.

Dwayne
06-05-2002 Over year old.
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fitenfyr
rrProfessor
Location: Port Orchard, Washington

Never checked...

Phil,
Never bothered to check. IMO it is not that critical on a 30 class ship especially a Raptor or Hawk.
I have tried a couple different sets from TT, Aerotech, Revolution, some unknow and now the Mavrikk. So far no real difference with any of them except the color.....

Jason

Jason Stiffey
Fly Fast....Live Slow...
06-05-2002 Over year old.
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