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Tandem Rotor Helis Vertol Chinook > Chinook doing 3D
 
 
WMac
Veteran
Location: Skotlande

What are fuzzy chip detectors?

Will


Beep Beep! One Road Travel, with Dominic Byrne!
09-14-2004 Over year old.
 
 
mikeflyz
Senior Heliman
Location: Westlake Village, CA

WMac

Chip detectors are the magnetic sensors that are in the oil stream of the engines and transmissions that attract metal particles (former parts of the transmissions/engines). If there are enough of them, they will send a light to the cockpit. They look "fuzzy" when a lot of metal is on them.

Mike
09-15-2004 Over year old.
 
 
Rotorhead27
Heliman
Location: Killeen, TX (Currently Iraq)

The special ops side of the military is starting to use a lot more chinooks because of there payload capability and speed. We have some buzz our palace here in Iraq all the time since we have a special operations unit right next door. I will try to get a picture sometime.
09-20-2004 Over year old.
 
 
joelduval
Senior Heliman
Location: Canby, Oregon

imagine all the torque checks and retorques after all that.
I was just wondering on the ilca packings, they all had to had blown after all those stresses.


2 rotors are better than one
09-20-2004 Over year old.
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Skillmaster
Veteran
Location: LA cali

not bad

thats the only heli i havnt seen doin minor 3D, u guys have to see the CH-53 super stallion another huge 7 rotor bladed heli that has very good manuvering, i saw a video of it on discovery wings were it did a loop and rolls, and this heli is huge, i mean it can fit a hummer inside it! and it can air lift 18tons, its a nice heli.....too bad they dont have an rc version lol

1992 3000gt vr4
09-24-2004 Over year old.
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WMac
Veteran
Location: Skotlande

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too bad they dont have an rc version


I saw an RC one in MHW sometime back. Really impressive

Will


Beep Beep! One Road Travel, with Dominic Byrne!
09-24-2004 Over year old.
 
 
joeorso
Heliman
Location: Glen Mills, PA

Great Video

As an engineer who actual analyzes chinook blades, the first thing I thought was...

"That's not in the fatigue spectrum mission profile!"

Actually, it's hard to tell just how aggressively the pilot was flying. When I've analyzed the blades it all X.x G Roll Reversal, X.x G Symmetric Pullout, ... I've never worked flight test so I'm not familiar with what the high G maneuvers look like.

As mentioned before, one thing the Chinook has to be careful of is off-load the blades. A negative G maneuver could see the fuselage moving up with the rotor blades moving down and they can (and have) cut the sync-shaft that runs along the spine. When this happens, the pilots can punch out like in an airplane. It's not something you do just for fun.

Joe Orso
09-24-2004 Over year old.
 
 
Windy488
Heliman
Location: St Austell,Cornwall, UK

Saw the Chinook display the week before this video was shot. I watched it with one of the crew who came down for the ride. He's a crewman and even he was impressed with the manoeuvres from the ground. The stall turns are actually wing overs, it's the size of the heli and the speed that makes it look like a stall turn, and the display is flown with positive G. The display is designed to give the illusion of aerobatics and flying at the edge of the envelope and it works really well. You have to see the display for real so that you get a visual reference with the ground - it is a whole lot more impressive then. And the crewman who waves out the back is working pretty hard too - think I would rather be sat up front!
09-25-2004 Over year old.
 
 
mikeflyz
Senior Heliman
Location: Westlake Village, CA

Regarding "punching out" of the Chinook, the emergency exit doors will mechanically jettison at the cockpit, but that's about it. I guess you still have to dive between the blades.

Mike
09-27-2004 Over year old.
 
 
FourtwenT
Heliman
Location: S. Florida

WOW. Cool video.

Fury 50 9303
10-03-2004 Over year old.
 
 
duc996bp
Senior Heliman
Location: Preston, UK

Fantastic display!!

I bet the noise must have been superb.

John
10-22-2004 Over year old.
 
 
gadge
Heliman
Location: Wirral, England.

I didnt think the angle of the rotors on a ch47 would allow it to hover just the front end for that long, just cool.
Wadington eh? i should go to these places again, i used to go to Woodford in Manchester but not been for over a decade.great clip, thanks for that.
10-24-2004 Over year old.
 
 
vinrx7
Veteran
Location: Americas finest city

is there a video of the one that someone mentioned earlier where it was hovering over a bridge and the timing went off between the 2 rotor heads?

STUPID TREE!!!
11-01-2004 Over year old.
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mikeflyz
Senior Heliman
Location: Westlake Village, CA

Vinrx7, check out ...

http://airmunn.com/MOVIE CLIPS/helicoptere_05.asf

A CH-47 doing an external load job, and the forward rotor system collided with the object it was carrying.

A dephased rotor system that happened by itself hasn't happened in quite a while.

http://airmunn.com/FUNNY STUFF FILES/oops_files.htm

Not really funny stuff, but a reminder of aviation's unforgiving personality.

Mike
11-01-2004 Over year old.
 
 
Chinook Display
Heliman
Location: RAF Odiham, England

Hi,

I'm Sqn Ldr Dave Morgan, the RAF Chinook display pilot you see in the video. I found this site using a Google search and was surprised to find my display sequence, flown at the RAF Waddington International Airshow this summer, linked here. I don't know who took the video but it looks pretty good!!!! A professional version which includes in cockpit shots of my display can be found at http://www.sendit.com/video/item/7000000092471 and more info about the display team at http://www.militaryairshows.co.uk/chinook2004.htm

mikeflyz - we didn't need to pull any chip detectors after our displays, I did 26 venues this summer without incident - just shows what a great aircraft the Chinook is !!!

I'm glad you enjoyed the display, we won the best display prize at the Waddington show. We should be on the UK circuit again next year. I'll be happy to answer any questions you may have about the aircraft and the display.

Regards

Dave Morgan
11-05-2004 Over year old.
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wurthless
Key Veteran
Location: Redding Ca.

Hello Dave

Wow,,,,, pretty neet to speak with the pilot of that ship.Too bad I can't get the thing to run on my computer. Anybody know how to explain to me how to run it. I can download it and when I open it it wants to know what program I want to use to run it,,,well the only media player I have won't support it so where do I go to get the softwear? I can't locate the vidio on the web-site you posted( I'm a dope on the puter!). Is there a search querry I can put in and find it. The item number did not help. Thanks for joining the group. Lets hear some stories on how you get to do what you do,,training etc..thanks...Mike
11-06-2004 Over year old.
 
 
Chinook Display
Heliman
Location: RAF Odiham, England

wurthless,

You can imagine my surprise to see me on your site. To view the video I use winamp which is downloadable from www.winamp.com for free.

As for the video go to the RAF Waddington Airshow site www.waddingtonairshow.co.uk follow the link to the show's video, I should have mentioned you will need to buy it!! It will include all of the aircraft that displayed at this year's show.

My home base website is http://www.raf.mod.uk/rafodiham , unfortunately it is still being updated but should tell you a little about the RAF Support Helicopter Force.

Dave Morgan
11-07-2004 Over year old.
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wurthless
Key Veteran
Location: Redding Ca.

Finally got a look,,,

Awsome flyin job Dave, That is an eye opening display of what that bird can do. Have you ever gone just a little (or maybe alot) past that special little point that makes you pucker-up? I'm sure you still get a thrill outta flyng like that but you know what I'm askin,,have you scared yourself and how bad?? Be carefull and have fun,,,,, Mike

QUICK! ,,,can someone turn the gravity off for just a second,,,,
11-07-2004 Over year old.
 
 
Dave P
Heliman
Location: England,UK

Hello Dave
What a pleasant surprise to see your post in the forum.
I shot the video at Waddington this year, superb display it was worth the entry fee on its own.
Will the Chinook be on the display circuit again next year?

CHEERS Dave Probert
PS; have a look in my gallery
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Do a Hover - it avoids G
11-07-2004 Over year old.
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Chinook Display
Heliman
Location: RAF Odiham, England

Dave P,

Thanks for posting the video, glad you enjoyed the show and the Chinook display in particular. I hope you found the other links useful. Yes, we will be on the circuit next year, operations permitting, but my co-pilot will take over as display pilot. My wife won't let me out to play anymore, we did 26 venues this summer and she's would like a summer next year. Looked at your gallery and like the Gazelle, did my training in one of those!

Wurthless (Mike),

Yes and no, would be the honest answer. I've taken the manouevres as far as I'm comfortable with, especially in the verical, the aircraft weighs 13 tonnes!! This is my 3rd season displaying the Chinook and I think I know where the limit is! I don't think I would ever get bored doing the display and trying new moves, but its the time away at shows that takes it out of you.

Dave
11-08-2004 Over year old.
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