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Tandem Rotor Helis Vertol Chinook > Chinook doing 3D
 
 
Joe Ubaldo
Veteran
Location: Grand Rapids, MI USA

I was awestruck watching it and had a big smile on my face. Simply amazing flying!
07-08-2004 Over year old.
 
 
Gyro
Senior Heliman
Location: Central Ohio

Joe Ubaldo,

That was exactly what I was doing.
Awesome vid
07-08-2004 Over year old.
 
 
eric_b
Key Veteran
Location: Denver, CO, USA

That was unreal. It's scary seeing those blade flex. And the noise! Wouldn't it be cool to see that in person!
07-08-2004 Over year old.
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Raptor50Flyer
Senior Heliman
Location: TN

That was sweet, My wife was standing over my shoulder asking if thata was real....
07-08-2004 Over year old.
 
 
jerrythercpilot
Veteran
Location: --South Florida --

How do you get "rudder" control on this thing? By using aerleron on the rear rotor?

Light travels faster than sound, thats why some people appear so bright UNTIL you hear them speak.
07-10-2004 Over year old.
 
 
joelduval
Senior Heliman
Location: Canby, Oregon

quote:There was a video of it somewhere. One overseas (non-army) doing a hover near a bridge and something went and the whole darn thing just flipped and fell.

Jason Stiffey

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That ch-47 was in korea. It was the united states armys bird. From c co 252 avn. I had two good friends on that bird.
now back to topic, Did you know that the ch 47d has 5 transmisions, and each engine puts out 3500 shaft horsepower each enabling it to sling over 50 thousand lbs.

2 rotors are better than one
07-12-2004 Over year old.
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DarkStaR6
Senior Heliman
Location: Croydon, South London, UK

Wow, that's some neat flying!!!

What impresses me about the Chinook is the fact it can land in water, have whatever boat or amphibious vehicle drive into the back then just take off with a belly full of water.... I bet that fooker holds a lot of water!!!!

Cheers ears...
07-12-2004 Over year old.
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Flight-ready
Senior Heliman
Location: Bristol, TN

That was a really good video. Its amazing what some of those military
pilots can do..............Thanks for the footage.

Flight-ready
08-04-2004 Over year old.
 
 
TIGGER
Heliman
Location: Yaxley/Cambridgeshir e

Rudder control on the 'Chinny' is very simple, one swashplate tilts left and the other tilts right. If you watch a chinny coming towards you more often than not the blades look like a big X. I spent 3 years on them when I was in the RAF. The front blades clear the front of the rear pylon by about a foot and like wise for the front pylon. The mechanical mixing on the flying controls has to be seen to be believed. Would you believe the rotor rpm is only about 120!!! Hence the 'whop'.
08-09-2004 Over year old.
 
 
Chris Bergen
Key Veteran
Location: location

Actual RPM is 225, at least on the old C models. On the D they switched to 100% rotor RPM instead of actual.

Each rotor blade is 30 ft long and weighs around 400 lbs, depending on tip weights and what not. Yes, they do flex alot!

Each engine has a 90 degree gearbox mounted on the front of it. A drive shaft then sends the power from both of those into one combining transmission, then drive shafts send that power forward and aft to the front transmission and aft transmission, then up to the respective rotor heads.

Yes, they can fly single engine, and fly very well. if you happen to be carrying a slingload, and lose an engine, you must jettison the load, but at least you will still fly.
In Operation "Just Cause", the invasion of Panama, I was on a bird that had enough cause to take off single engine from a hot refueling point.

Chris Bergen
08-10-2004 Over year old.
 
 
TIGGER
Heliman
Location: Yaxley/Cambridgeshir e

Our blades (RAF Model HC2) weighed in at 360 Ib each, used to take six of us to lift it into the cradle during a blade change. I never used to enjoy torquing the blade pins on the rear head, long way up and not a lot to hang onto.

On the subject of the combiner gearbox, the military Chinooks have a more beafed up version than is on the civillian version, like the one that crashed in the North sea. The gearboxes and engines also have mag chip detectors and in the RAF we did oil samples every 25hrs. I love the gearbox oil running down my arm into my armpit.....not!!! Wasn't all bad, if you kept the helo flying it would generally stay serviceable. If it sat in the hangar though.........
08-10-2004 Over year old.
 
 
Aimforever
Heliman
Location: Central Wisconsin

That is truly an inspiring video. Makes me feel like I should be flying for the military instead of R/C. Gotta love those guys and all the amazing stuff they can do. God bless america.
08-12-2004 Over year old.
 
 
funtanas40
Heliman
Location: union , oh , u.s.

really untill it landed i couldn't tell it was real...or the guy waving out the window near the end. how does that thing have ruder control???
08-12-2004 Over year old.
 
 
TIGGER
Heliman
Location: Yaxley/Cambridgeshir e

One swashplate tilts left while the other tilts right and visa vera.
08-12-2004 Over year old.
 
 
ch47
Heliman
Location: Newark, De USA

Blade clearance

Hi,
The blades are separated by approximately 11 inches and they do intermesh. The forward head rotates counter clockwise and the aft head rotates clockwise. Thus, the blades are moving in the same direction over the center of the fuselage. The transmissions are combined together as stated earlier and if one fails the helicopter will instantly disintegrate. The forward rotor shaft is tilted 4 degrees forward and the aft is tilted 9 degrees forward. Therefore the aft set of blades intermeshes with the forward about mid-ship. There have been a couple that exploded in midair from that problem. Two of my friends were aboard one of them at Ft. hood Texas. Additionally, the other one happened in Manheim Germany; Sadly, 30 parachutists died in that crash. As for the 3D capability of a CH-47, let me just say, it will do it but why? The 47 has over 10,000 shaft horse-power and a fully articulated rotor head, however, flights like that really piss off the maintenance officer. They will be doing sheet metal repairs for weeks. Negative Gs cause a loss of lubrication in the five transmissions. While conducting a rescue at 20,000 feet, we encountered a severe downdraft which caused all the transmission pressure lights to illuminate. I’m not sure how stable a model CH-47 would be, the real one has complicated stability systems which takes out the inherent instability of a tandem helicopter. The aft head always flies through the rotor wash of the forward.
09-03-2004 Over year old.
 
 
epoxydude
Heliman
Location: ODIHAM uk

cool

hey tigger how comes it took six of you to lift the blades when it takes three of us painters
by the way i paint the dam things
09-08-2004 Over year old.
 
 
xcellflyer
Senior Heliman
Location: Lake View Terrace CA 91342

sweet!
09-10-2004 Over year old.
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WMac
Veteran
Location: Skotlande

Saw that dispaly in the flesh today. And I thought I knew bladeslap...

Will


Beep Beep! One Road Travel, with Dominic Byrne!
09-11-2004 Over year old.
 
 
mikeflyz
Senior Heliman
Location: Westlake Village, CA

Watching that as a former CH-47C crew chief in Mannheim Germany (295th Aviation Company ASH) made me think, wow, I wonder how many fuzzy chip detectors they pulled after that!!

Mike
09-14-2004 Over year old.
 
 
proptwister
Senior Heliman
Location: SW Missouri

Awsome. I had do idea they were that manuverable.

I can only imagine what kind of stress something that big puts on a rotorhead/transmission.

But totally cool nonetheless!!

Matt

Evo 90 OS C-Spec 91 w/OMI Mod
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09-14-2004 Over year old.
 
 
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