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e-Electric Motors & Controllers > hacker help please!
 
 
bazler
Senior Heliman
Location: Swindon, UK

Hi Gents (and Ladies), thanks for reading....

My Logo 10 had fitted a C50-15L with Master 48-0-heli (opto)(15 tooth pinion, 13 cell nicad) programmed to governer mode.
Idle up 1 was to 70% (straight line).
Normal mode had a curve to get the head slowly up to speed.

Basically the speed controller cut out after 30 seconds hovering on the heli's 1st flight and never worked again.

The shop I bought it from (West London Models) have kindly sent me another.

My question is:- have I done something wrong (specifically with the 70% bit)? I worried now that I'll put the new one in and it will happen again!

Thanks Guys,

Baz.

Baz.
05-25-2004 Over year old.
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Rob_T
Elite Veteran
Location: Tualatin, OR - USA

Sorry but I just dont buy the "static off the T/R" theory for 1 minute! Somebody is looking for excuses to not make good on a warranty claim, and Hacker has just dropped big time in my opinion.

It is impossible to tell by looking at the damaged ESC that the cause of the ESD (electro-static discharge) was the T/R and not sloppy handling by Hacker. One problem with ESD is that is can cause "walking wounded"- parts that dont fail immediately, so the fact that it didnt fail until you used it for a few seconds proves nothing. ESD is much more of a problem before components are installed onto a PCB than after since once assembled there are usually many paths to dissipate the "zap" rather than just a single component. - Thats assuming it even is ESD!

To even confirm ESD requires removing the affected part from the ESC, removing the packaging from that component and subjecting it to microscopic analysis. I would be surprised if Hacker found it cost effective to keep the necessary etch equipment, microscope and expertise on hand.

(PS my credentials include over 20 years experience in semiconductor testing and doing failure analysis of semiconductiors for a major telecomms company).

(PPS flying in the rain helps eliminate ESD problems )
05-26-2004 Over year old.
 
 
bazler
Senior Heliman
Location: Swindon, UK

Thanks for your replys guys. Like you both mention, static does seem a bit far fetched! Surely all the other electronics on board would be suffering if it really was that bad.

I'll now ask the question the other way round......

How many people have used a hacker controller thats been trouble free?

Baz.
05-26-2004 Over year old.
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estevens
Senior Heliman
Location: Phoenix, Arizona

I have good luck with my Hacker speed controls. FWIW I am not running the C series motor. My understanding is that the Gov software is configured for the B series. When used with the C motors in Gov mode the controller will not respond correctly. The C motor uses different magnets than the B. The Hacker controllers are optimized for Hacker motors and are more flexible than other brands of controllers (i.e. timing and frequency). The Gov software may have been updated by now.
05-27-2004 Over year old.
 
 
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