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Off Topics > I strongly urge everyone to read this "I know who is behind all the false accusations
 
 
trey3670
Senior Heliman
Location: colorado way up north

great investigation,now where is the other half of the party? just seems funny we havent heard from him yet,course it might take awhile...
04-21-2004 Over year old.
 
 
trey3670
Senior Heliman
Location: colorado way up north

heres an idea,when you click on someones profile theres a list of all the user names that share the same ip? sorry mark not trying to make it hard,just trying to kill the shadows creeps hide in
04-21-2004 Over year old.
 
 
Drunk Monk
rrProfessor
Location: Preston, UK

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when you click on someones profile theres a list of all the user names that share the same ip

That sounds like a good idea, why not email mark and see what he says


Stephen

I only open my mouth to change feet.....
04-21-2004 Over year old.
 
 
Sp00ky
Senior Heliman
Location: CHRISTCHRUCH, NZ

damn good

to see someone sticking by their guns and standing up to dorks like this. Good on you for bringing this one out.

Foo, i say piss all in this forum, but dude.. id pay whatever the cost to fed-ex a 10 litre drum of dog sh|t to your doorstep dude.
04-21-2004 Over year old.
 
 
S_Owen
Senior Heliman
Location: Wichita Falls, TX.

foo

Actually you do, even from spam, it's just that it's usually not the actual IP. Most spammers use open relay server that belong to some poor idiot who forgot to set up security on his Exchange server.

The reason they do that is so that they can get around server black-lists. I came upon a company last year who's server was relaying over 60,000 spam e-mails a day. Oops. All of this went unnoticed until they started getting their e-mails back because their server was black-listed.

[b]Murphy's Constant:[/b] Matter will be damaged in direct proportion to its value.
04-21-2004 Over year old.
 
 
yeloowtang
Senior Heliman
Location: canada ,quebec,gatineau

enough with foo he makes me laught to
this is about rick and i'm glad he's shed light on this, many of the post
he refered to i had falowed and wondered what was up...
now we know there's a nut case out here screewing with us
let see if a new heliman comes along in his defence

good work rick as i said in one of your previouse post
you have my trust and otherpeoples as well hope to do business with you some day,if you ever have a vario huge 500 with 5 blades for sale let me know

take care dude

steff
04-21-2004 Over year old.
 
 
trey3670
Senior Heliman
Location: colorado way up north

well i pm'ed mreed an told him about this thread(only fair right?) he said hes watching,that was all

as for the multiple id's in the profile MR said that aol makes that impossible,so it would not work
04-21-2004 Over year old.
 
 
shuttle+crasher
Heliman
Location: state college pa

FOO
for one thing you are wrong about TCP/IP. an IP address is like a finger print of your computer. yes you can change it but you really need to know what you are doing so as to not screw anything else up. so before you post something and not know what you are talking about please read a book. another thing if you are changing your IP address you are more than likely trying to hide something or trying to get away with something. foo do you have any backround in information technology at all. if you do please feel free to use one post and explain yourself.
04-21-2004 Over year old.
 
 
S_Owen
Senior Heliman
Location: Wichita Falls, TX.

shuttle+crasher

You cannot manual change your own IP address. That is up to the ISP. You can request a change, but it is not something you can do on your own. Unless you are on dial-up, the you can just log off, and back on again. So you can't screw anything up.

If you are on a lan with static IP's, you can change those and they can screw stuff up if another computer is on the new address. And even then, it just disables the NIC until the problem is corrected. The internet is a completely different animal. Only the ISP has the ability to make IP changes.

You can go through, or use, a proxy server to hide your true address when visiting web-sites but they have no affect on e-mail, IP's are still tagged locally by the e-mail client.

One thing about all of these users on the same IP. They could be in the same building, like an office or something, and coordinating their efforts. I really think we should pursue this. If they are, I am sure their boss would be none to happy about the way they are using company resources as most have policies against such things.

Looks like most of us could use some books.

[b]Murphy's Constant:[/b] Matter will be damaged in direct proportion to its value.
04-21-2004 Over year old.
 
 
Amethyst_knight
Senior Heliman
Location: Pittsburgh, PA

S_Owen..

just a point..you can sometimes initiate an IP reassignment manually:

ipconfig release
ipconfig renew

Depending on your ISP's networking protocol, that can work. However, the earlier comment about Masking can also be a bit misleading. At work we use full IP masking to our VPN, and our firewalls handle all the natting. Some ISP's will use that, but still, the packets are still uniquely addressed, even if it is natted through a VPN.
04-21-2004 Over year old.
 
 
S_Owen
Senior Heliman
Location: Wichita Falls, TX.

That only works if the DHCP server is local. For WAN (DSL, cable, Bridge, etc) the IP address used is a separate scheme from what is being used locally. For example, your computer may have network address of 192.168.0.111, and gateway of 192.168.0.1. The gateway will have a WAN address of something like 64.155.28.201. The two schemes, 192.168.0.XXX and 64.155.28.XXX cannot communicate directly. That's the purpose of a router, a bridge, a modem, etc. They bridge communication between the different schemes. That's the way a computer with a local address of 192.168.0.1 can communicate with runryder's server at 205.134.230.242. If they were on the same local network, they couldn't communicate with each-other at all unless a router, or a server, joined the two.

When you renew your address, you are doing that locally. Meaning that the local DHCP server (witch may be part of your BB modem, bridge or router) will assign a new local address to your computer. So your address of 192.168.0.111 may change to 192.168.0.55, but only if a lease duration is not set. It can be changed to any IP as long as it stays in range and is not in the exclusion list. For the WAN, or the IP the rest of the world see's, it can only be changed between the ISP and the modem, bridge, or router. The gateway must remain static but that's local and doesn't really matter. So, even though you can change your local IP, your internet IP is not up to you regardless of protocol. This is something much easier to understand if you have ever set up a bridge. See, the ISP has to have more than 255 unique addresses, so there really is no way to connect to their network on a local address. So, they have to assign one for your use, on one of several schemes. If they didn't do it that way, you would never see anything outside of their network, meaning no www.

So even if you renew, your local IP will change, but even with that, it has to be set to a 0 day lease or the same IP will be re-assigned. But, again, that's local. Even if you change your local address, your WAN address stays the same.

There is no way to mask an IP. You can stealth them, meaning they will not respond to pings or TCP/UDP scans, but stealthing is impossible. Somewhere down the line, the IP must be known, otherwise you couldn't see this page. Nat forwards ports, it has nothing to do with addressed packets. You can address all the packets you want to, it only matters what port they are on. For example, you are seeing port 80, if you forwarded port 80, you wouldn't being seeing this except for on the computer you forwarded the port to.

Before "renew" look at the time "lease expires" and IP address.


After "renew" look at the same.


Router's WAN and local address info. It never changed. The WAN address is my internet IP address. It's the address you would see attached to an e-mail from me and the one assigned to me by the ISP, the one I can't change.


FWIW, information assurance, and security, is what I do.

[b]Murphy's Constant:[/b] Matter will be damaged in direct proportion to its value.
04-21-2004 Over year old.
 
 
corsair
Heliman
Location: Alberta Canada

Thanks

Thanks for the warnning Rick.

I have not bought anything yet on RR but I know at least onr person to whach out for.


Corsair

Rapor 30 v1 o.s 32 (resurected) 401gyro falcon 50 o.s 50 401 gyro Futaba 9C
04-21-2004 Over year old.
 
 
Ray Nemovi
Veteran
Location: SAN DIEGO CA

so here a a new job for Mark Ryder.
You need to check on all new members to see if they've been a member before by checking their IP address. Hopefully we can keep people like this out of here.

After black96Z sold me his heli he was no longer a member here.
I bet he has changed his user name and still around.

Hey Rick can u find out if this guy has changed his username and under a different one.

Ray N.
04-21-2004 Over year old.
 
 
Jerryc
Senior Heliman
Location: Oklahoma City

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Bad person to deal with and very crooked watch out , this was due to a heli I purchased from him a while ago , he says the stuff
is nice but when you get it , it ends up being junk. HIs name is
Rick and he may go by other user names.

This was his first ever post CLICK HERE

Strickland111 sounds like he is describing himself.

There has to be some type of psychological profile here....



Jerryc
04-21-2004 Over year old.
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Jerryc
Senior Heliman
Location: Oklahoma City

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HEHEH YOU GUYS ARE FUNNY, I WAS DRUNK WHEN I MADE THAT POST AND I AMD RUNK NOW. THE ONLY PERSON WHO I HAVE FEEL THAT I HAVE VALUERABLY TALKEN TO IS DM, HE IS A GOOD GUY. NOT A PRICK LIKE SOME OF YOU


Ooookay


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Jerryc
04-21-2004 Over year old.
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Drunk Monk
rrProfessor
Location: Preston, UK

erm.. thanks for the compliment foo.

Great post from S_Owen. I think we can tell what he does for a living


Stephen

I only open my mouth to change feet.....
04-21-2004 Over year old.
 
 
reddragon
Key Veteran
Location: Brooklyn, N.Y.

I see why you double post now Foo. Half the time you are not in control of your faculties. Welcome to the real world.

Wayne -- Fly it like you stole it!
04-21-2004 Over year old.
 
 
shuttle+crasher
Heliman
Location: state college pa

owen i do agree with you. but last time i reformatted i did notice a slight variance in my address. and yes i do agree with you we should be monitoring the amount of screennames that have the same ip because that is far to many identities. if your an honest person and want to use the forum correctly you only need one screen name. am i right in thinking this.
04-21-2004 Over year old.
 
 
crashdebris
Heliman
Location: Midwest City, Oklahoma

I like the idea of only 1 screen name per IP address, but I see a few problems.

1. The time for our administrator to do these checks, could easily become a full time job.

2. The possiblility of more than 1 person using the same computer, some families may fly together.

3. Some "reps" may wish to have two persona's, one for their official duties and another for personal use.

There may be other problems I haven't thought of.
04-21-2004 Over year old.
 
 
shuttle+crasher
Heliman
Location: state college pa

i would do it in a heartbeat. wouldnt even think twice
04-22-2004 Over year old.
 
 
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