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jdn32
Heliman
Location: Colton, CA

I think the stylus is a great radio for the money. I have one with the Heli card and it has so many nice features and assignable stick switches is a plus. Now if only Airtronics would make another one with the same body just have a full screen in front of the unit like a 10x or 9 WCII . Then i think more people would buy in to it. Curves are nice on a full graphic screen.

Laughter is the only emotion you won't regret.

04-12-2004 Over year old.

modtron
Veteran
Location: Oxford. UK

There are very strong rumours that Samwa / Airtronics are up-dating the Stylus specifically for Hashimoto. As he say's, it does nothing for his image. Just keep waiting and see what comes.

Modtron

04-12-2004 Over year old.

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Optech
Key Veteran
Location: Vista/Oceanside, CA.

I haven't heard rumors of a complete upgrade/remodel but Sanwa does offer a current copy of the Stylus system that Hashimoto used in the WC called a Stylus "F3C".

I got my hands on one but its not all that different from domestic models other than its in "Japan" configuration, i.e. the switch locations and assignments are different than the American Airtronics version.

The Hashimoto F3C edition I got came with a heli card, blue anodized stick ends, and the 1100mah battery. I was also told that the stick gimbals have ball bearings although I haven't opened it up to look at it. It doesn't feel much different to me though.

It also came with a 40mhz module and receiver that I can't use (outside of work) as there were no plans to release an American "Airtronics" version on 72mhz.

Basically, Its good to know that Hashimoto used the same equipment we can get our hands on and not some special one off stuff. On the other hand, unless your a die hard Hashimoto wannabe, the "F3C" edition is not any better than what is available domestically.

Mike

04-12-2004 Over year old.

TMoore
rrProfessor
Location: Cookeville, TN

We already did a full high res touch screen back in 1990 and everyone whined about the price. It had a full microprocessor controlled Synth with built in hit counter and spectrum scanner, 11 point curves, CCPM, even 135 degree CCPM if you wanted, more mixing than anyone needed at the time, assignable and programmable full logic switches, 1100 mah TX battery, PPM, PPM invert, Generic PPM, PCM 512, PCM 1024 ATCP with channel priority (ATX even had the ability to software encode the PCM data to match JR and Futubaba but did not turn it on), graphics everywhere for almost everything and we had every stick mode covered in software-freely user selectable and no friggin backup battery required---built in tach, voltmeter for the RX pack, full stick calibration, servo diagnostics, expo, VTR, dual rates-----Hell, we had digital trims before anyone knew what digital trims were and they still work better than almost every digital trim scheme on any radio today, it was called Auto DTM. We even had auto offset if you wanted to use it.

Oh well, I guess ATX can stuff it in a new box and put a nice shiny touch screen in it and call it new all over again. I guess the old truism still holds, "what was once old is now new again".

Terry

04-12-2004 Over year old.

jdn32
Heliman
Location: Colton, CA

Was that the Infinity 1000

I heard that radio was really capable but everyone complianed about the case. All they would have to do for the stylus is make a full lcd on the front of the unit and have it touch screen. And adding two more channels would be nice too so more scale flyers would also be inclined to purchase one.

Laughter is the only emotion you won't regret.

04-12-2004 Over year old.

TMoore
rrProfessor
Location: Cookeville, TN

jdn32,

You are correct, it is the Infinity 1000H. I love the case and the rocker switches. There are some things that aren't current anymore software wise but not much else has changed or needed to.

Terry

04-12-2004 Over year old.

steve9534
Key Veteran
Location: yakima, wa.

Infinity 1000

I had one of those radios and hated the case configuration and the software. Every single function was on a separate page and it seemed everything was buried at least 5 steps deep in the program. I'm not sure if even the folks at Airtronics ever figured out how to program it. I went to a FF about that time period and the Airtronics reps didn't use it. They never did come out with a clear manual for it, either. It was tremendously powerful, but you needed to be a NASA engineer to program it. The Stylus is a huge improvement, but graphs and some digital trims would be nice. The RD8000 has almost the same programming capability and is the easiest to program of the 7 or so computer radios I've worked with, plus it has those digital trims. steve

04-13-2004 Over year old.

the collective
Veteran
Location: Bayside, NY, U.S.A

I still have my 1000H, I guess the case and rocker switches were a love/hate thing, but I always liked them.

Programming could be tedious, but once you got used to the layout it got intuitive.

I wrote the text for the manual, but I never saw what shipped with the actual production radios. Mine was a preproduction unit which I still own and fly.

D

04-13-2004 Over year old.

jdn32
Heliman
Location: Colton, CA

Stylus

I i really like the Stylus. I feel that if the bottom portion of the unit was a full LCD screen and it had two more channels it would be probaly the top radio. Plus if it had a full graphic screen with the heli cards the possibilities are endless. Right now they can keep upgrading the cares but there is only so much they can show the the two line screen. I love the feel of the unit. It feels like a real radio instead of the real light weight plastic radios. Even the JR pcm 10x doesnt have assignable switches or the sticks.

Laughter is the only emotion you won't regret.

04-13-2004 Over year old.

TMoore
rrProfessor
Location: Cookeville, TN

Believe it or not some of us did figure out how to program the radio. Some of the ideas like PSS (programmable soft switches)forces you to configure the radio for your use. This is a little different from all the rest.

Regarding digital trims we have had them since 1990. The difference is that neither the Stylus nor the I1000 uses push tabs, nevertheless, the trims are digital. If you have ADTM active any trims that you are using gets written to the flight mode in use and saved once the radio is turned off you may recenter the trim levers and trim even more. On the Stylus there are 2 forms of ADTM for you to use, your choice.

The case was a love hate affair. It probably would have been more popular in a standard case with normal switches, live and learn.

Like all of us, it would be great to have a Stylus with 10 channels, full LCD screen and even cooler graphics and more B&W. All I know is that Sanwa is busy right now.

Terry

04-13-2004 Over year old.

the collective
Veteran
Location: Bayside, NY, U.S.A

Quote
Like all of us, it would be great to have a Stylus with 10 channels, full LCD screen and even cooler graphics and more B&W.

I'd be happy to just find some of the ATCP 10 channel receivers for my Infinity. OR an upgrade so it could talk to the newer 8 channel receivers.

D

04-15-2004 Over year old.

TMoore
rrProfessor
Location: Cookeville, TN

Me too, but that is not realistic at this point. The ATCP system isn't compatible with the new 200us stuff. You can use it for FM though, which is what I do. Mine is working well.

Terry

04-19-2004 Over year old.

the collective
Veteran
Location: Bayside, NY, U.S.A

Mine too, but I'm more comfortable with PCM in a heli, so I've been using a 9C lately. Surprisingly nice radio for the price.

What would be GREAT would be an upgrade path to convert the Infinity 1000 to the newer PCM encoding, but that's probably a pipe dream.

Just curious... are you the Terry "Roger" Moore who used to write for Traplet's heli mag back in the late '80's?

David

04-19-2004 Over year old.

I3DM
rrProfessor
Location: Israel

Very interesting thread !
i love my new Stylus too, even without the card its a very capable radio.i too would have actually liked digital trims more then manual, even if the ADTM is used...

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04-19-2004 Over year old.

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TMoore
rrProfessor
Location: Cookeville, TN

I3DM,

The trims are digital. When you come in from flying and your radio is shut off, with ADTM 2 set prior to the shutdown, recenter the trims and away you go. ADTM 2 remembers the hover pitch and throttle settings too. It's that simple. It has been like this since the early 90's when ADTM was implemented. We could have had push trims years ago.

David,

I used to write for CT's magazine in the mid to late 80's. There just aren't enough I1000's out there to warrant writing a new PCM encoding scheme. CSys Labs could probably do it without too much trouble. By the time that happens a new Stylus will be out.

Terry

04-19-2004 Over year old.

jdn32
Heliman
Location: Colton, CA

New stylus

So anyone know for sure if there is going to be a successor

Laughter is the only emotion you won't regret.

04-21-2004 Over year old.

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